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tjfisher said:
wow sorry i asked to a simple what do you think about question turn into a full blowen wow thread . my last note on this yes the average buyer would be 200+ on theses battery but i do have some connection hens the 50 more statement . Again im so sorry for asking anything here :(
Don't be. I was quite interested in these same batteries. Pros and cons.
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Thomas
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tjfisher said:
wow sorry i asked to a simple what do you think about question turn into a full blowen wow thread . my last note on this yes the average buyer would be 200+ on theses battery but i do have some connection hens the 50 more statement . Again im so sorry for asking anything here :(


I don't know why, it is all just information and opinion, take from it what you will?
I wish someone had given me all of this info before purchasing, at least I would have understood the voltage requirements and capacity . Likely would not have burned out my Alton and PODtronics either.

Glen
 
tjfisher said:
wow sorry i asked to a simple what do you think about question turn into a full blowen wow thread . my last note on this yes the average buyer would be 200+ on theses battery but i do have some connection hens the 50 more statement . Again im so sorry for asking anything here :(


Don't apologize... we take pride in lengthy, off topic side trips loaded with conjecture. Happens all the time. :mrgreen: Seriously, there is a lot to consider... much of this technical banter can be confusing to a newb. Bottom line, you gotta make your own decision, based on good judgement, having considered all the options. Much of this is info here will help prepare you to do that. If you want to "do what everyone else does" with no input of your own, that's a bad choice. Why? Because you won't what to do when anything goes wrong. Did you read the advrider.com link? Questions? Is the few pound weight reduction worth the premium in price to you? Answer that and you're on your way.
 
I just found out - through Ballistic Products warranty service - that LiFePO batteries do not play well with positive ground systems.

My latest lasted 15 months and he was surprised I'd gotten that far with it.

Anybody else had better luck while retaining the positive ground system?
 
BrianK said:
I just found out - through Ballistic Products warranty service - that LiFePO batteries do not play well with positive ground systems.

My latest lasted 15 months and he was surprised I'd gotten that far with it.

Anybody else had better luck while retaining the positive ground system?

I have had great success with mine.

This is interesting.
My 2 position switch use to have no load so when i forgot to turn it off a couple times there was absolutely no problem. I left it on for 2 or 3 weeks once. Pushed the horn, turned on the lights, tried the brake lights, no loss of charge. This was with any battery.

With the new electronic tach, there is, apparently, a measurable draw, although I have not measured it. I walked out and noticed the key in the on position the other day. Stone dead, no horn, light, brake light.....nothing. I fired up the bike and almost instantly, the Shorai responded as if nothing was ever wrong.

It's as if it gets to a threshold and just shuts down as if it was switched off inernally and when a charge starts feeding it, it wakes right up as if you turned on the internal switch.

I have these little lithium polymer cells for for RC planes. Some have been sitting down there for a few years and when I put a meter to them it is as if I just took them off the charger. Spooky stuff.
 
Interesting, Pete.

I just, reluctantly, ordered an Odyssey battery to replace the LiFePO. I am a little heartbroken to see it go, but I can't justify trying again after what the Ballistic guy told me.
 
It's as if it gets to a threshold and just shuts down as if it was switched off inernally and when a charge starts feeding it, it wakes right up as if you turned on the internal switch.

Yep that's the claimed purpose of the internal safety circuit, especially in size of battery that its scale of discharge distortions fracture conduction paths internally in a cascade of shorts till its blazing. Electrons' internal flow between 'plates'-electrodes don't cause such risks but big ole ions do.
 
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