Amal Premire Carbs
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I just put a set of the stay-up floats in my Trident, and I thank whoever came up with that for something new and worthwhile. Easy to check and adjust the float level. I'm a member of Triplesonline, we have raging debates on Amals over there as well. For most of those folks, they are the best option due to a lot of mounting issues that Commandos don't have. But, I've seen some beautiful Mikuni set ups, as well as adapting carbs from XS 750 Yamahas. Oil, carbs, tires, chains, and best of all ignitions. So many things to argue over, so little time.
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Brithit said:
With winter coming soon there will be PLENTY of time to bitch about the littlest things. :mrgreen:
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In terms of Amal carbs lasting pretty much for ever (which is what's been claimed by several posting on this thread), I wonder why if thats indeed the case, that the Amal carbs fitted to works Bultaco trials bikes back in the 70s got changed after pretty much every event? Trials demands the most precise carburetion of any motorcycle sport, and the factory simply couldnt risk problems caused by wear, and as the carbs were only likely to be costing them around £5-8 each renewing them was a sensible thing to do.
This thread was started regarding improvements to the current Amal Concentric carbs, what relevance does the carbs made in the 70's by different owners have to do with this. Everyone knows the perceived wear issues were due to the slide and body made from the same material and the new carbs have a different material and coated slide now. Chrome slides have been available for years now and wear has not been an issue, certainly not on the pair of concentrics fitted on my Commando. Why can't you just drop it and get on with something useful in your life that is assuming you have or perhaps take up knitting and join a kniting circle and whine on with all the other old ladies and spare us from your constant ill informed innacurate rubbish you keep constantly posting on this subject.Carbonfibre said:
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Those posting rubbish that isnt accurate on this thread are the same ones who feel that pot metal metal carbs (which are cheaply made in far east/eastern europe), are superior to modern parts made by reputable manufacturers, and also dont seem to have any sort of problem paying extra for modified component parts to help prevent the pot metals wearing out so quickly...............
Carbonfibre said:
it looks like you don't mind changing YOUR FACT'S to match what others have found out for you as to where they are made or sticking your nose in other threads where you have NO knowledge of what is being discussed like with matts combat build. your credibility is falling rapily with me and I am sure with others as well so how about taking a hike!!! oh and don't let the door hit you on the bum :mrgreen:
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Maybe as you seem to be very knowledgeable on this subject , perhaps you would be good enough to advise everyone of exactly where Amal carbs are being manufactured currently? This would avoid any confusion on the subject, and I cant honestly see any problem with getting something made in the Far East for £2 say, when the same thing would cost £20 here in the UK.
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swooshdave said:
Roll on winter! I would be very dissapointed if no one Bitched, I think Carbonfibre,Bill and like others give spice to an otherwise boring subject. Can you imagin the most exciting threads being "Changed my plugs today" with the respone....yep "going to do mine soon".... Carbon verses Bill ,,,, Ding! round six..and its gloves off :!:
I have said my piece on this and shown where you first stated that the carbs were made in east Asia/china than far east Europe/Europe along with thanked LAB for getting it straight from amal themselves as to where. I have NEVER calmed to know where nor do I care where they are made as you professed. I am just happy that I can STILL buy replacement parts or complete units for some thing that has been out of production for 35 years. yes I also know of there short comings and don't care to hear any more from you about them.Carbonfibre said:
At the expense of being called boring, I have decided to add my post to this thread.
I used to have a 1980’s rice burner that the manufacturer had applied Teflon coating on the slides, did it last a lot longer? I hear you ask………Well, at around 80,000 miles the Teflon coating had worn through, and, as there was nowhere I could get them recoated, I purchased a new pair.
On of my mates said to me that it would have lasted a lot longer if I had used some cooking oil on them….to which I replied, digging myself into an hole, ‘yea, I’ll dip them in and drain off the excess and use that to fry my sausages and eggs!’
So, it is not a new pendulum, all slides appear to suffer from wear.
What of making the slides and carb body out of harder wearing material?
If someone did that, Norton, Triumph, BSA e.t.c. will fit them to their bikes?
If these carbs become more expensive they will do exactly the opposite, and seek out a cheaper supplier as the manufacture will do ANYTHING to cut costs, one to keep their customers happy with the new purchase, and secondary, they won’t admit it, but no manufacture worth their salt wants to hear of bikes that they made in the last century still going strong, so that you will not go out and buy a new model in order to keep a factory and workforce going not to mention keeping the shareholders happy.
I plead poverty, as I am sure a few of you out there will do as well
I used to have a 1980’s rice burner that the manufacturer had applied Teflon coating on the slides, did it last a lot longer? I hear you ask………Well, at around 80,000 miles the Teflon coating had worn through, and, as there was nowhere I could get them recoated, I purchased a new pair.
On of my mates said to me that it would have lasted a lot longer if I had used some cooking oil on them….to which I replied, digging myself into an hole, ‘yea, I’ll dip them in and drain off the excess and use that to fry my sausages and eggs!’
So, it is not a new pendulum, all slides appear to suffer from wear.
What of making the slides and carb body out of harder wearing material?
If someone did that, Norton, Triumph, BSA e.t.c. will fit them to their bikes?
If these carbs become more expensive they will do exactly the opposite, and seek out a cheaper supplier as the manufacture will do ANYTHING to cut costs, one to keep their customers happy with the new purchase, and secondary, they won’t admit it, but no manufacture worth their salt wants to hear of bikes that they made in the last century still going strong, so that you will not go out and buy a new model in order to keep a factory and workforce going not to mention keeping the shareholders happy.
I plead poverty, as I am sure a few of you out there will do as well
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bill said:
The fact that you can still buy replacement parts is simply due to the fact that getting something made for £20, and being able to sell it for £120 is pretty good business, especially in a market where a fair number of end users dont appear to be fully aware or even care about the obvious shortcomings of the product in question.
The Amals are certainly being made in one of the countries I have mentioned in previous posts, and it doesnt really make a lot of difference which one, suffice to say they have not been made in the UK for a very long time, and production here simply wouldnt be feasible on a commercial basis in any case.
Finally I wonder if you would be good enough to outline what carburetion and ignition system you would fit to a customers bike, who was looking for long term reliability and performance, without any major concerns over OE type originality?
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Carbonfibre, why do you insist on stating, as if it was fact that Amals are made in the countries you think they are?
LEB posted the reply from AMAL and it clearly says they are made in England. Here is is:
"All Amal carburetters are made here in our Salisbury factory."
You must have missed reading this.
LEB posted the reply from AMAL and it clearly says they are made in England. Here is is:
"All Amal carburetters are made here in our Salisbury factory."
You must have missed reading this.
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Correction,,,Amal bodies made in spain..finnished in the UK.1up3down said:
Carbonfibre said:
what does this have to do with the original topic??? NOTHING SO EITHER START YOUR OWN THREAD OR SHUT THE F### UP!!!!! now if you do start another thread I might give it some thought but as you like to change the facts to suit you maybe NOT!!!
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