Amal Premire Carbs

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I was very happy to read the original post about the availability of the improved Amal to fit our Commandos. It was a valuable bit of news that many of us who would like to stay close to original spec may benefit by. Thanks Wolfie for letting us know!

Vintage Paul
 
hudson29 said:
I was very happy to read the original post about the availability of the improved Amal to fit our Commandos. It was a valuable bit of news that many of us who would like to stay close to original spec may benefit by. Thanks Wolfie for letting us know!

Vintage Paul

+1 on that :D
 
Brithit said:
bill said:
remember belt drive man heaven help me :lol:

Yes I do! Wonder whatever happend to him. I think he's been banned from a number of fourums.

I think he changed his name to Carbonfibre and gave up on belt drives to complain about Amals.
 
swooshdave said:
Brithit said:
bill said:
remember belt drive man heaven help me :lol:

Yes I do! Wonder whatever happend to him. I think he's been banned from a number of fourums.

I think he changed his name to Carbonfibre and gave up on belt drives to complain about Amals.

dave actually said a funny, and didn't request a picture - freak'in amazin-then again- 1 post in 5000+ he was bound to do it eventually!
 
bill said:
Carbonfibre said:
Finally I wonder if you would be good enough to outline what carburetion and ignition system you would fit to a customers bike, who was looking for long term reliability and performance, without any major concerns over OE type originality?

what does this have to do with the original topic??? NOTHING SO EITHER START YOUR OWN THREAD OR SHUT THE F### UP!!!!! now if you do start another thread I might give it some thought but as you like to change the facts to suit you maybe NOT!!!


You seem quite to able to pontificate on the subject of Amal carbs, so shall we take it that you not being able to respond to my simple question above, would suggest that you feel Amal carbs and points ignition would be the best possible choice for long term reliability and performance?

If so could I perhaps interest you in a dozen Chinese made chocolate fire-guards, which should be comparable to the Amal carbs in terms of reliability and performance, but can be improved even more when sprayed with heat resistant paint?

As to Amal carbs being manufactured in Salisbury, I wonder why the carbs are not marked "Made in England", and how Burlen are able to keep prices so low, bearing in mind production costs are likely to be 10 times higher than manufacture in either the Far East or Eastern Europe?
 
swooshdave said:
Brithit said:
bill said:
remember belt drive man heaven help me :lol:

Yes I do! Wonder whatever happend to him. I think he's been banned from a number of fourums.

I think he changed his name to Carbonfibre and gave up on belt drives to complain about Amals.

that is funny BUT atleast B D man DID NOT change the fact's to suit himself.
 
bill"[quote="bill said:
remember belt drive man heaven help me :lol:

Yes I do! Wonder whatever happend to him. I think he's been banned from a number of fourums.[/quote]

I think he changed his name to Carbonfibre and gave up on belt drives to complain about Amals.[/quote]

that is funny BUT atleast B D man DID NOT change the fact's to suit himself.[/quote]


and BDM actually had a lot of knowledge, could back it up and knew what he was talking about. Some people didn't like that!! He had a unique sense of humour once you took the time to work him out! :lol:
 
How have I changed the "facts" to suit myself exactly? Seems for some reason that Amal refuse to disclose where the carbs are actually being made, and it seems to be likely they are being made in either the Far East or Eastern Europe. See OBM article for clarification that they are not being made in Burlen factory Salisbury as claimed earlier in this thread.
 
Carbonfibre said:
How have I changed the "facts" to suit myself exactly? Seems for some reason that Amal refuse to disclose where the carbs are actually being made, and it seems to be likely they are being made in either the Far East or Eastern Europe. See OBM article for clarification that they are not being made in Burlen factory Salisbury as claimed earlier in this thread.
Seems that reading and comprehension are also not your strong points. Its states quite clearly in the OBM article that casting, milling, drilling and plating are outsourced to local companies, unless of course we count the Far East, China or Eastern Europe as local. Why don't you just run along and play with the other children in the playground and leave us grown ups in peace.
 
snakehips said:
Carbonfibre said:
How have I changed the "facts" to suit myself exactly? Seems for some reason that Amal refuse to disclose where the carbs are actually being made, and it seems to be likely they are being made in either the Far East or Eastern Europe. See OBM article for clarification that they are not being made in Burlen factory Salisbury as claimed earlier in this thread.
Seems that reading and comprehension are also not your strong points. Its states quite clearly in the OBM article that casting, milling, drilling and plating are outsourced to local companies, unless of course we count the Far East, China or Eastern Europe as local. Why don't you just run along and play with the other children in the playground and leave us grown ups in peace.


Clearly then if the OBM article is correct, the carbs are not being made inhouse?
 
Seeley920 said:
bill"[quote="bill said:
and BDM actually had a lot of knowledge, could back it up and knew what he was talking about. :lol:

yup - this forum, like the internet and all the other forums has lots of "expurts" (BDM's own terminology by the way). We have a handful of knowledgeable people here that actually know what there talking about about - the rest - not so much. It's a shame the ability to hammer on a keyboard and post messages has no relationship to mechanical skill/expertise (in fact probably a reciprocal relationship)


i think the only thing we've learned from this thread is some people like amals and some don't - and there is no changing that opinion
 
Wether that product is made in England or in China is not relevant. The end product is the important part and when flawed (materials of poor quality, short life etc ) then it becomes a second or third choice for me.

Electronic ignition, electronic assimilator, modern tires, updated braking, H4 lighting, LED brake lights, reed valve, high output alternator, updated carburation, Akront wheels etc keep me happy on the road.

My Commando never ran so smooth since I changed for a Mikuni. A huge difference in qualitly.

Good quality is good no matter where it is made!
 
Single carbs are for people who gave up on syncing dual carbs! Oops, wait a minute...that is not the topic of this thread. Sorry, go back to complaining about Amals. That is the topic right?

Oh, FWIW, I am running dual Amals on my Combat. For some reason they idle steady, have plenty of acceleration (as in I can't do WOT and still hold on). I think it must be the only case of this happening. Will they get swapped out for something else later on? Maybe, but since I am a pussy rider in my old age and can't ride the bike as hard as it can be ridden I dunno that it matters that much. I have a high quality Keihin carb on another bike that gives me nothing but trouble, for some reason I am always messing with it. Of course I have had 40 years to figure out the Amals and much less experience with the Keihin. Maybe by the time I am in my 70s I will have it dialed in. Now if it would just stop raining I could go scrape some footpegs on the asphalt.

Have fun, ride safe but mostly just ride...
we do all ride right?

Russ
 
SGOUD said:
Wether that product is made in England or in China is not relevant. The end product is the important part and when flawed (materials of poor quality, short life etc ) then it becomes a second or third choice for me.

Electronic ignition, electronic assimilator, modern tires, updated braking, H4 lighting, LED brake lights, reed valve, high output alternator, updated carburation, Akront wheels etc keep me happy on the road.

My Commando never ran so smooth since I changed for a Mikuni. A huge difference in qualitly.

Good quality is good no matter where it is made!


Where the carbs are made is actually relevant............ as this is directly related to unit costs, and more importantly product quality.

All the improvements you mention though are things that make a great deal of difference to any older bike, nearly all of which were fitted with shoddy poorly made OE parts, which today can be easily improved upon, often at a lower cost than using reproduced OE type parts.
 
Carbonfibre said:
SGOUD said:
Wether that product is made in England or in China is not relevant. The end product is the important part and when flawed (materials of poor quality, short life etc ) then it becomes a second or third choice for me.

Electronic ignition, electronic assimilator, modern tires, updated braking, H4 lighting, LED brake lights, reed valve, high output alternator, updated carburation, Akront wheels etc keep me happy on the road.

My Commando never ran so smooth since I changed for a Mikuni. A huge difference in qualitly.

Good quality is good no matter where it is made!


Where the carbs are made is actually relevant............ as this is directly related to unit costs, and more importantly product quality.

All the improvements you mention though are things that make a great deal of difference to any older bike, nearly all of which were fitted with shoddy poorly made OE parts, which today can be easily improved upon, often at a lower cost than using reproduced OE type parts.
Oh ya? Says who?

You seem intellegent. I, myself, would rather be smart.
 
ludwig said:
I like Amals .
When set up correctly , they perform well .
OK , they wear fast , but with rubber manifolds you can double their life .
over 300 000 km , they gave me very few problems , like f.ex. twice a piece of slide broke off , but the engine 'ate' it without further damage .
What I particularly like about them , is how they handle changing altitude .
Even at 10000 ft up , they will pull trough the rev range ,idle well and still start first kick .
By comparison , my brother's modern Bonneville (carb version) in std setting , will loose massive power above 6500 ft and refuses to rev over 5000 rpm .
( But I'm shure the knowledge that his keihins where cast from the right stuff was a real comfort ..)
I also get much better milage : 60 mpg (imp) .
Sleeved a few slides , using anti aircraft shells , but swiched to anodised as soon as they became available .
I would consider Jseng's flat slides if I where shure they can perform over a range of 10000 ft without rejetting .
My next set will most likely be Premiers .
Wish they would make them a little lighter though ..

300.000 km? is that 180.000 miles...man thats some milage :!:
 
Interesting to hear about what modifications are required to allow a slide type carb to work well over a wide range of altitudes without re-jetting?
I have found that the more precisely a carb has been made, the more sensitive it is to very minor changes in the set up, which obviously means that tuning perfectly to suit a particular application is very easy.
 
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