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55 degrees with suspension tied down 3" but over an inch down left. Measured worse case fouling angle for R/L hard points location of triangulated crash cage. In no particular order taken with help of Wes reminding me how far I've yet to go, ugh, yet ahhh.

Ain't resized photo's so to see all if ya care, put cursor in image, R click then tag view image, then put cursor in that image and tap L click for full size and zoom or ctl + to zoom more.

Do note the straight steering this low prevents the hopping about seen on the supermotard's video sliding low wiping off the rider till slowed enough to get back on and then up and settled back in saddle before picking up his pace again, pashaw under powered corner cripple that can't take the loads of tire conflicts on edges like a good ole tamed isolastic rubber baby buggy Commando that don't need no 3rd leg down like an old man's cane to balance neither while still flying off at a tangent instead of power screwing it right down into the ground and missing.

What's up with those tether things connecting the rear axle to the frame loop?

EDIT: I see that you have them on the front end too, are you planning on doing some Evil Knievel jumps or what?

As the Hobot says , he has it ' pulled down ' three inches there . Fuse is set to let em go approaching the Grande Canyon ,
for maximum vault . Er . . . She sits 76.200 mm higher unladen .

Good catch Mark, you are 1st to notice one of Peels secret weapons.
Look closer at the series to see both ends in either relaxed of stretched state.
Tied suspension down as no air pressure hooked up yet.
They are air muscles to pull Peel down from 2" higher stance than factory to at least an inch lower. I definitely will attempt tiny jumps but not nearly on scale of Evel ugh. Next step is take apart to welder for cage out of Al thick wall pipe.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgDPerAjVBw[/video]

Btw what dumped Peel in the woods was leaving the trial bike path for funner raw woods and slowing down too much to blast though the hidden stump in bottom of photo that only caught one frame rail, plop.

What is the purpose of installing them on your bike?
Why would you want to "pull down" the bike?
I can see them loading up the progressive springs and stiffening the ride, but that about it.
It seems to me that there are easier ways to adjust the suspension.

Please explain what your are doing.

Uhg Mark, I must brave THE Gravel to get to pavement and there's all these tempting pastures that invite Steve McQueen-ing on my own or chasing very surprised deer and running over animals and stuff that's about axle height w/o much bother and tipping over into ravines so sharp Peel used to hi center so had to shove over the edge instead of just riding over w/o leaping too far out in space to loose control. Carrying serious cargo. But it'd wheelie too easy with front that tall and then may want to cruise about at normal stance, so hope can suck down, but may end up just compromising like you suggest. I think I'll corner best with front lifted and ass tucked because on leaving counter steering behind Peel becomes more a unicycle than a bicycle so might as well help her into that secure stance. Its hard to slide a unicycle. I tell ya that rear low rod link of Patton has driven me stark ravening mad and i love it. All the rest is just to try to make better use of it.

are you planning on installing a compressor on the bike to adjust the ride when you hit the pavement?
If not, you could just set it up to handle the dirt and leave it at that.

Well there's all the twisted Ozarks highways to deal with between the rough places and commuting. Also its fun to ride around faster than sports bike can on the smooth pavement. Its a British product at heart so a Yellow Submarine squid hunter toy houses the air station with swing arm as reservoir. Its a two pressure adjustable cut off regulated check valved gizmo on 3 decks that separate, from Walmart and hardware plumbing. The fancy blue electro valve relay was expensive. There's a mini me co-pilot stationed inside, hands on the wheel : )
Escape hatch window flips open on a hinge. Fake water jet canon for slicing dicing its slower soft bodied prey.

so........you are building a blown hotrod and you are planning to mount that contraption on it?
I think that you are pulling my leg.
If not - good luck, I hope that it works the way you want it to.

Hi hobot. What's the clamp for on the left front down tube of frame, and how do you adjust the rear chain?

Graeme

There'll be tears when that blower case touches down for real!! Hoping it never does but knowing your history!!

I did a similar study on my alloy tanked monoshocker, and compressed the suspension in order to see how far it could lean over under heavy braking into a turn and still not scrape. it was more than enough to retain full tread contact right to the chicken strip.

I'm been in tears decades on how short life is for too many of us, so part of this dream machine project is to flaunt fate and use it up before i'm gone. Crash cage is more for daily hazard use as Peel is so fast and secure I don't fear crashing by handling mistake or quirk in chassis upset, so will likely remove em after a ride to a track day to lighten some mass and air resistance. Paintball blunderblusts get mounted on the crash cage for clearing deer and video of em falling down on THE Gravel or running into each other or trees and fencing. I've too many images of big beautiful animals and me dying with blood and guts and brains and bones mangled so I know anytime could be it. Only Ms Peel allows me to go faster than fear can keep up.

Paul I was pleased to see that with suspension tied down there was no decrease in lean angle. But lean angle is not a limitation to Peel to turn sharper harsher like I have to do on THE Gravel at times when at max of ordinary phase 2 lean handling and log or rock or limb or wash out appear around a bend or over a crest. Big block blower torque should be able to enter phase 5 turns which are like rolling burn outs that don't need much lean. Every blind scares me now. One can not do what Peel allows until you are going into turns faster/harsher than crashes all other bikes I've tried or viewed. Peel loves to get so loose she pivots on CoG in 4 different ways, both tires sliding opposite, front or rear end sliding out and when hi side air borne. There is also a different lean angle pivot point in long axis of bike pilot CoG when both tires off surface flying sideways. Iso chassis allows storing steel tube flex energy to release like a sling shot w/o any rebound. Also the faster/harsher she went the easier on pilot to operate, uncanny. Peel can change direction faster than eyes can focus or gas mass cross an IS tank. I will have to keep eye on gas level to pull off phase 4, if full or mostly empty no biggie but inbetween about 4 gallons whooweepee!

Say Steve...What made you go for centrifugal charger, rather than a roots? After we were all talking about chargers the other week I went and bought this;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Supercharged-In ... 125&sr=1-1

Really interesting book.

Cheers,

S

Copying the Spitfire , R.R. Merlin , so itll fly over doubters & scoffers . Set Max Boost , Full Lean , Min RPMs ,
itll double the economy . Spotting opposition , its fine pitch , 2nd stage ' COMBAT ' boost , rich mixture , Guns ON .

:twisted: :lol:

Said to be rather efficent , pressure & volume , ejecting off the impeller combines forces .

Bernhard said:

A moot point, Hobit, this is not a technically accurate way of measuring lean angle, as the front wheel is not straight, it’s rolling of the edge of the tyre, if you had been riding that bike at the time and allowed the front wheel to tuck in like this you would be kissing the Dirt/tarmac. To be really technical it should be counter steering….but nice try.

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This method is only to check the clearance. Note that it is a non-running bike and nobody was hurt in the making of the photo (except maybe some old guy who hurt his back getting it leaned over for the photo)

The difference in the lean angle between having the front tire slightly left, center, or right, is negligible.

When I first started to go fast on the track, I had a serious near-crash when I dug the side stand mounting lug into the ground while leaned over in a corner. Just like the lug in these pictures. I hack-sawed it off the frame in the pits before the next session, after that, no problems.

Say Steve...What made you go for centrifugal charger, rather than a roots?

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Hegel, those before me have found out positive displacement superchargers have a 'hard' hit to throttle as have fixed ratio of boost to rpm while the snail turbo type fan blowers have a softer' power hit. This is a non issue in bee line short sprint but could take one down while leaning on tire that's barely gripping already. Also the Drouin was read made bolt on so saves me money and errors trying to adapt a belt drive and correct size turbo charger. The lag and sudden hit of exhaust driven turbochargers also made cornering on delayed then spiking power curve less predicable. Centrifugal blowers produce less mixture heating than roots type compressors. Snail blowers essentially have no end to their boost rise as rpm increases but positive blowers run out of boost as rpm needs increase. So even at low rpm and lugging like throtttle a + compressor would need anti-detonation help but not the tamer onset of snail blower, so easier to dial in mixture with a draw through carb or injector that don't have a fuel bowl with vents to atmosphere pressure to compensate for. Also I've got likes of ducati 1198's and Suzuki SR!000's in my sights to embarrass up to 150 mph or so, such as top speeds attained so far on tracks like Barbers or Pike's Peak.

Drouin don't add but 15 lb so lighter set up than a roots type.
When I hit lean limits nothing but pure power can make it turn sharper accelerating. With instant tire over powering I can wind up frame harder faster for the air borne flings that result.

Drouin don't add but 15 lb so lighter set up than a roots type.
When I hit lean limits nothing but pure power can made it turn sharper accelerating. With instant tire over powering I can wind up frame harder faster for the air borne flings than result.