hobo kills again

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Had 2 commutes today on SV650, even diddled air on slow leak tires to handle dry loose layers w/o much fish tailing or front wash out work outs. Out and back once fine, out and almost back - [clutch shift mild]- coasting around a bend low 30's mph in 5th to pull in and visit friends a couple hundred yards further, 9 goats were milling around at inside of turn, 20 yards ahead, beeped but instead of clearing further off road as the other herd I pass through regularly no sweat, these all piled back across the road so I struck two almost full grown juveniles which snatched R fork stanchion into the frame and bike on top of me sliding about 20 yds further. I was so pissed and in pain I screamed bloody murder
DAMN IT NO AGGGGGGHHHHH, Oowwwwoooo AGGGGGHHH, DAMN IT >>>
ditto'd for most a minute.

A bare foot 3 yr old came out first then bare foot blond 30 yr old mother in moo moo, who went first to her goat to cuddle it in tears and move out of road a few yards. Then father came out with a helper and we got bike up and off THE Gravel. Loaded in his PU and was dropped at home shed 5 miles later.

Givi fairing and instruments/dash smashed, Headlight knocked out of socket,
Radiator V-'d 2" into bottom and radiator cap torn off, brake peg/lever frame bracket fractured apart and peg curved but brake lever intact, tank exposed back to the previous few bondo layers, bars, RH master cylinder and bar switch control, signal and lever and cable and wires, finish on RH engine case cover and curvy frame bones scared but intact. Me, RH lateral knee skin down to the lateral collateral ligament, R palm down to the Hamate bone and a big raspberry smack on R hip-trochantor peak. No spinal injury so not really in physical pain.

I've most the kit to fab up triangulated crash bars but lawn mower, Trixie Combat and Ms Peel, homestead vitals have taken priority, silly lazy me.
The family is in mobile home 3 kids and little work but fella is gonna to help me shop for parts gradually as bargains are found so could take a year+ to recover SV.
Radiators start at $600, caps $60, Clocks and dash $200? for starters.

If I'd been at safer normal more aggressive pace I'd of nailed throttle like I do for deer and might have ridden right over the fender tall goats. Live and learn eh.
Oh yeah, mommy knew her goat was dead meat still making whimper noises and said she couldn't stand to see it rocked to death, so I said I'd finish it. She walked
away balling while put tender young innocent goat head between my knees and palpated the notch below skull through the butting head tough nucal ligament, flicked out my wicked blade, placed point - went numb cold hearted and pounded blade deep into its brain stem so goat collapsed and faded away in seconds. If I notched handle of all the mercy killings this decade I'd have no handle. i did not ask the name of their pet. It will feed them a week or more.

Festus again next few days but can feel the alternating micro currents induced by ions flowing past the rubber magnets starting to regulate the capillary beds, ahhh.
I do dream of powerful deadly 3 wheel hunting weapon.

Brain shaken I guess. here's full res link for fun.
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Not Commado releated. Maybe LAB will move it.

If I cipher this correctly you were riding down a dirt road too fast and hit some goats. You killed some poor baby goat and messed up your bike. And to top it off these poor people have to fix your bike?

Maybe you should have slowed down?

Well i was not on a Commando, yet but I've killed more on Commandos than cars and trucks combined. Effective triangulated crash bars is the Cdo tie in on this event.
I was going extra slow d/t the extra dry and loose deep conditions just to keep good control as about to peel over and drop down a very steep driveway.
I only wish I'd been going 45+ slightly accelerating on slight spun to best grip tire with momentum and in power band-gear for effective response to power right over goat. If you think I was at fault oh well hope you keep your attitude as I know what it takes to change it. Sorry to upset ya again.

hobot

hobot said:

Well i was not on a Commando, yet but I've killed more on Commandos than cars and trucks combined. Effective triangulated crash bars is the Cdo tie in on this event.
I was going extra slow d/t the extra dry and loose deep conditions just to keep good control as about to peel over and drop down a very steep driveway.
I only wish I'd been going 45+ slightly accelerating on slight spun to best grip tire with momentum and in power band-gear for effective response to power right over goat. If you think I was at fault oh well hope you keep your attitude as I know what it takes to change it. Sorry to upset ya again.

hobot

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So you were going extra slow and still hit them? What are the right of ways for livestock in Arkansas? In some states and some countries the animals have the right of way.

Dear Sir, there used to be and may well still be free range laws in Arkansas. I could get a suit going and maybe get a lien on family property and wages and fines criminally and civilly. But it was pure fate I fully accept when I go for a life and death ride no matter my mood, no matter my behavior. All's I'd accomplish trying to seek revenge is cause more suffering to a struggling family, create hard feeling with them, plus extended family and neighbors all around these parts. Now I've a new friend feeling in debt to me and a helper to crawl to on next downing or for homestead and projects. He's a past rider with friends who part out these moderns all the time so may score some goodies while we get high figuring out next steps.
This is real Dixieland here both good and bad. If they were mean and nasty bunch ...

Safe Journeys,
hobot

I'll tell ya, We need my buddy more than ever! :roll:

A little clarification on THE Gravel speed and conditions.
When I mentioned adjusting air for less fish tailing and front washouts, I meant that I'd lowered air a good bit so just climbing grades or trying to hold a steady state straight forward was not such a terror to me -trying my best not to do anything to take a risk in and out. I am long over any pressing limits on THE Gravel learning curve. Low air does not make for good handling on highway, so even there just legal cruise in the curvy's only kicking up speed in lonely straights under a mile.

Also THE Gravel conditions change like a river's mood, low water trickle to flood state rapids. If the grader stays away for a couple weeks the really big loose stuff gets cleared out the tire ruts to sand grit covered stable base that's a treat to ride.
But when groomed its like a steamroller smoothed packed surface with a couple to 4 inches deep marbles and arrow heads on top you can hardly walk in or stand on a slope or put foot down, just rolls out from under. Also when really dry the electro static charges can't bleed off so all the particles or repelling each other for extra lossness. Just to get across it requires holding bars tight and bracing with butt so the tosses and twisties just cause bike to slide and drift a bit but not change fork or lean angle for instant tank slapper splatt.

The safest way is not creeping with feet down as there in no ballistic momentum or wheel gyro's to keep upright on each snatch out by rocks. The best way is like getting a boat up on a fairly hard plane so drag reduces and control inputs lighten.
Depending on air, temps, humidiy and grooming - 35-45 is about right. Trouble is at this speed brakes don't brake they just spin bike or throw it down so only effective emergency input is steering and throttle. So i ALWAYS hang to edge of my lane and slow for EVERY crest and blind turn - ALWAYS expecting a Bus to deer herd or tree fall any where any time.

Anywho may have to quit two wheel hobby as not a season gone by in 13 yr so far some event out of my control wipes me out good.

Safer Journeys to yo'all,
hobot

Not impressed with driving beyond your ability to stop. A sad AVOIDABLE situation :x . But, still... If you life was a reality show. I'd watch. :mrgreen:

When I see animals, I am fast on the brake to slow down as much as I can without loosing control. There are always more animals than you can see. Especially deer, they come like machine bullets, one after the other and when they run they don't care where they are going, their mission is to run and follow. Don't count on getting past one and not another. Sometimes though, they just run into you before you even see them.

Dave
69S

Steve not knowing you personally, I get the distinct feeling you live a totally haphazard life and most of your ills are self inflicted. I am glad you are ok again, but am with DogT on this one.

So Hobot
can we say that this nothing but a kids story?

sorry couldn't resist

Nailed me completely always been my own fault, too stupid to learn to stay under my bed like yoose safe mature riders. Thanks for setting me straight.

hobot

Hobot............

You seem to have the throwing at the ground down pat. Try working on the missing part

to completly change the topic... since you are into rather strange Nortons have a good look at this picture

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attac ... 1279836074

Can't get in to see it.

I can't get in either, but I may want to emigrate to Kiwi the way things are heading.

Dave
69S

Cheesy the site opened to a sign in page no photo to wow me, drats.

First deer kill March 05, ~35 mph winter time slogging up Gravel rise on 3 wk new to me factory Combat Trixie. Deer darted out driveway between two cabins and leaped straight into my headlight and me with combined 70-75 mph impact.
I also died by fractured neck to heart and lung nerves, just quivered on and off for 20 min writhing in pass out severe pain. I chase down a lot of deer on and off road and across pastures and clocked them. Does can leap 40 mph spurts
and bucks 45 in terror. A lot of them fall on their butts scratching out in THE G when they realize they are being targeted, which brings us close as cycles don't have legs going up/dn. The ones at home ignore cars and chains saws and rifles and shot gun and big fires but I see them scatter at first sound or sight of me on
Commandos. I know better than chase deer on corner crippled fat tire SuVee
unless just in line with normal travel. Then can make em dart stretched out long though barbed wire strands that usually snags enough it upsets their landings into tumbles.

1st deer hurt me worse than breaking neck and other stuff spring 01 with wheelie induced hi side on tract ~120 mph, after leaving very angry instructor behind a full shift form entry to exit and did not shift up as got suddenly afraid he'd try to follow me at my rates into next chicane, so waited and waited but he did not match me sitting bolt up right but flew past, which distracted me so I hit 4th at WOT and Ninja wheeled and came down on locked front because I was still covering brakes when tire lifted. I was slightly leaned so locked up touch down lo > hi sided so fast I was still in saddle upside down as whole mass impacted on head/neck/helmet, Not a scratch on rental leathers that Code inspected to Nth degree. I drove home in shock but in deep glee as found I'd mastered two tire surface skiing on Tarmac as rather easier than THE G.

Fall 03, 5:30 pm, 2nd deer hit me as I'd slowed to 75 to glance at rear before a turn to check wiggle I felt was wind or low air, before I got eyes back on road I got hit in R fool so hard should have sent me a somersault if not for peg > next focused view was nothing but blue ski and tree tops not road. Ballistics kept us vertical for landing. Slowed and stopped thinking a dog to see huge doe with L head bashed in still kicking. Rode back to it tingling toes to nose, but too big to pull off road so just rolled it over mostly out of lane, looked hard then cried at such a beautiful animal killing both itself and any illusion I had of safe rides no matter what. Blind rage hit next just as people from my village pulled up to see this screaming manic stabbing its brain stem. That was the one that did in my psyche so bad next time I had to ride at night d/t car trouble I kept upping speed through wooded twisited hwy till I felt most secure at 85 mph. Its a state like movie cycle gangs charging each other WOT.
I see animals in tree top foliage to mail box shapes, glints of shiny trash freak me out. How long to you glance at a tire before returning eyes to road ahead. POW!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNO88yqCr5I

Summer 07, crippled SV650 and a Great White Pyrenees because first pass had these big dogs excited by the chase, so leaving was going so slow 12 mph dog big could out run me and then turned and stopped to bite front tire.
I tired to power over him but was in too high gear too slow to prevent him
rolling up into radiator and dumping us. I tried to kill it by a rock but he limped
out of range of fractured wrist and ribs and hip. He was only there 1 wk prior and people moved next week.

Reality is the deer that will get you come sideways like an arrow, even if seen no way to react in time. If you see them in time to slow wonderful, me too sometimes but mostly I aggressively aim at deer now as no matter which way they go its out of the way and if they jump back in my way I'll more likely run em over and not go down. I helped one fella solve mystery of deer fur only behind his fairing after slowing thru a bunch and began to speed up to almost be knocked out the saddle - when returning on '69 Bonnie in woods a deer tried to leap from behind me just catching its rack in back glow off head light - freaked reflex WOT leaned leap forward and away from road edge to catch 2nd view of head-neck-chest almost hitting me from RH rear - pulled away in nick of time that time. Next few instants were spent saving a crash into ditch-fencing by delicate violent Gravel dicing inputs with nothing to lose.

Most funny animal event was tooling along before pavement on Peel and a chipmunk darted out almost into my path but pulled up a foot short in terror when its mate came darting right behind to run smack into first one so they both tumbled head over heels within inches of tire as I glanced down, then in mirror saw the first one turn and scream at his mate then chased it back into woods.

Almost as funny was my Cdo mate Wesley I was following when a rabbit shot out and went right between his tires at 50 mph then seeing Wes's shock and looking back and all over amazed he'd not felt anything.

I heal fast and fine but the mechanical carnage is about to break my cycle habit.
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I made a mistake with my Miata back in 03 and tried to dodge a deer one night on a 2 lane country road, flipped, went across the pavement upside down, scraped half of my cheek and scalp off, fractured my C3 which had to be fused. Spent 7 days in NOVA after the helicopter ride, worst experience in my live, not the accident, the hospital. Nursing staff way under paid and non-existent. Doctors were fine. Took me 3 month to get back on my feet, still have numbness in my left hand and constant neck/upper back pain. Luckily, I had a good plastic surgeon and I don't look much different, most people can't tell.

Still drive another Miata, and plan to get on the '69 Cdo when it is finished later this summer.

I'm very leery of animals, and people in cars too.

Dave
69S

OMG Dave!
My whole life outside Commando's revolves around C3 neurology. Now i click to some our past contacts. That level injury is ongoing battle to stay ahead of.

Most the deer and animal injury and death is from trying to dodge things that would be safe to run over or alert and fast enough to dodge you.
My first lesion was going 65 up a rise ditches on sides, 2 deer leap in road 30 yrd ahead and stop straddling whole lane, I braked hard till right on them and braced for head over heels teeth through skull impact 5 yd away when they leaped apart missing me by inches. I've had local HD riders tell me their wives have slapped deer rumps passing by.
I've almost been knocked over going 5 mph over my wet cattle grate entrance.
Bicyclers have been knocked over just sitting still at side of road.

Some of my best manic maneuvers and braking extremes happen when I chase half a dozen milling in my path out the way but only room between trees for 4 of em to escape so last 2 bounce back right in front of me. They often fall down they get so excited.

A young man was riding dirt bike w/o helmet right in front of his home and deer jumped on top to get trapped under him and bike and kicked his head so hard the dad had to use pocket knife to dig out embedded hoof pieces. OWIE.

What really taught me how to ride beyond even blow outs was sliding off road edge on hill climb out on fresh graded 4-6" inches deep, at night, cutting power made front instantly rudder down into the piles for tank slapper, if rear not spinning I stopped climbing, if I'd stopped to put foot down it would have slid right out and bike down slope into drop off. GOT ANGERY as this was place i first dropped my Combat, so with nothing to lose NAILED it to find the front got light and rode on top of the crap and pure jet reaction of the rocks slung backward propelled me accelerating up to the top where I tried to back off manic terror state to get instantly tossed about - till NAILING IT which got so fast I had to snick 2nd clutchless WOT to carry on in water ski like control. Then got to Dead Man's Curve, off slope switch back 270' full lock car turn. Tried again to ease around it to be sliding to drop off so NAILED it in 1st - rear tire weather vanned down hill to point front at apex w/o use of front but to let it dolly wheel any way it wanted, so long as not resiting the rear's overwhelming guidance at all, I flew up and around that sharp hooker impossibly fast.
My mind broke then- fear dissolved by insane speed of hazards whizzing by headlight in 50 60 70 in spots, aiming on purpose at worse hazards I could see in time daring fate to get me now G-D!. Get going fast enough tires will not stay in smoother ruts but climb to center peaks, just like a belt on a crowned pulley.
Harshest corners, tires climb up inside of slope not like normal on banked berms.
This causes bike to be continuously crashing a low side at front tire and a hi side at rear tire so it finds its own way around naturally, IF YOU DARE THE SPEED
and COMMITMENT. When I throw down at the ground I've always missed it so far.
Have dead beasts and riders here scarred me deep enough yet? I'm wavering.
Loud Pipes don't save - HI Power Does and that's deadly too.