New MkIII In The Family

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phil yates said:
I know some of our members prefer to fit a 3.60 (or metric equivalent) at the front to lighten steering.

The only time I would normally ride over a "gutter" would be when turning into or out of a driveway.

Perhaps the US term means something different to what we might know in the UK or Aus. as a gutter?

Maybe another one to add to the US - UK terminology list?
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I have never fitted a 3.00 front to any of my Commandos but I imagine the steering would be pencil sharp. I had a 3.00 ribbed Avon on my original Dominator. So did the Atlas and it followed through to the early Commandos.

BTW, someone mentioned earlier that his MkIII rear wheel was offset about 1/4" from centre of swing arm.
All Commandos as far as I know had the rear wheel offset by 3/16" to the right.[/quote]


My apologies. Dominator was 3.00 front, but Atlas went up to 3.25 front.
Then they went back to 3.00 front for the Commando.

Atlas BTW, had an 18" rear wheel and 4.00 tyre.
 
L.A.B. said:
phil yates said:
4.10 front was fitted from Combat on.
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I think it was in fact around the beginning of 1971 (from 142534 ?) that the factory began fitting the 4.10 to front and rear, so about a year before the Combat.

1971 Brochures, road tests and "Norton" books appear to confirm this.

http://www.classicbike.biz/Norton/Broch ... mmando.pdf
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You could well be right LAB.
I am relying totally on memory here. I just seem to remember that when I bought my 72 Combat in March 73, it was the first Commando I had seen fitted with a "fat" front tyre.

It was an Avon GP. I wanted a Dunlop K81 but couldn't get one.
I guess, like the prisoner in his cell who cried out "Guard, there is a fly in my soup"!!
The guard asked so what??
"Well I ordered a cockcroach"!!

Avon or Dunlop,
I guess it wouldn't have mattered either way.
 
phil yates said:
L.A.B. said:
phil yates said:
4.10 front was fitted from Combat on.
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I think it was in fact around the beginning of 1971 (from 142534 ?) that the factory began fitting the 4.10 to front and rear, so about a year before the Combat.

But now looking back at some old records, they indicate 4.10 came in 72.
But they also indicate that immediately prior to that was 3.00.
I was sure Norton went to 3.50 before finally settling on the 4.10.
Then later listed ribbed Dunlop 3.50 for the MkIII as an option.
I know that part is correct. I too have the original MkIII Riders Manual.

This is worse than trying to resolve why some Nortons pulled left.
Maybe it is all just a horrible nightmare, perpetrated by the evil pete.v??
 
Ok back to the topic. Yes my new commando MK3 does look like new, and yes it does have Bean can mufflers. I will post some photos as soon as i work out how to do it. I think you all will be impressed. I am going for a ride so i will let you all get back to you're spanners etc.
 
phil yates said:
BTW, someone mentioned earlier that his MkIII rear wheel was offset about 1/4" from centre of swing arm.
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1/4" sounds like too much but it's difficult to say without inspecting the complete assembly. Presumably, this is wheel rim offset we are discussing?
 
nnnrh said:
Ok back to the topic. Yes my new commando MK3 does look like new, and yes it does have Bean can mufflers. I will post some photos as soon as i work out how to do it. I think you all will be impressed. I am going for a ride so i will let you all get back to you're spanners etc.
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Well don't fall off and kill yourself with that skinny back tyre will you!!
You still owe me over $17,000!!
And it is not insured or restistered!!

Don't worry boys, I'll teach him about photo bucket. But he is actually a lot smarter than me.
Which isn't saying much!
 
L.A.B. said:
phil yates said:
BTW, someone mentioned earlier that his MkIII rear wheel was offset about 1/4" from centre of swing arm.
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1/4" sounds like too much but it's difficult to say without inspecting the complete assembly. Presumably, this is wheel rim offset we are discussing?
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Yes LAM
Wheel 3/16" right offset, to allow for engine plates being offset by that amount to the left. That was my understanding.

BTW, why do my quotes not come out in background white?
What stupidity have I now done? They used to.
Is Hobot playing tricks on me?
 
Yes LAM
Wheel 3/16" right offset, to allow for engine plates being offset by that amount to the left. That was my understanding.

BTW, why do my quotes not come out in background white?
What stupidity have I now done? They used to.
Is Hobot playing tricks on me?[/quote]

My understanding of what Norton did. Not what the poster thought was poor quality control.
And now I have a white quote background, or did. Hobot is obviously flicking the background
switch off and on!
 
phil yates said:
Yes LAM
Wheel 3/16" right offset, to allow for engine plates being offset by that amount to the left. That was my understanding.
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Yes, 3/16" is the usual amount, but I don't think 1/16" either way is any real cause for concern.


phil yates said:
BTW, why do my quotes not come out in background white?
What stupidity have I now done? They used to.
Is Hobot playing tricks on me?


And now I have a white quote background, or did. Hobot is obviously flicking the background
switch off and on!
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Your recent quotes seem alright, just take care that you do not delete any parts of the "[ quote ]" codes that appear at each end of the quote.

You should be able to go back and edit your message using the EDIT button if you need to correct something.
 
Just for the record, my 75 came from the factory with Dunlop K81s, 4.10-19, on front and rear.
Jaydee
 
jaydee75 said:
Just for the record, my 75 came from the factory with Dunlop K81s, 4.10-19, on front and rear.
Jaydee
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Yes, they were MY K81's you bastard!!
Held over from 72 to give to you three years later.

In Australia they were a rare item, or so it seemed. I gave up and just stuck with the Avon GP's.
 
L.A.B. said:
phil yates said:
Yes LAM
Wheel 3/16" right offset, to allow for engine plates being offset by that amount to the left. That was my understanding.
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Yes, 3/16" is the usual amount, but I don't think 1/16" either way is any real cause for concern.


phil yates said:
BTW, why do my quotes not come out in background white?
What stupidity have I now done? They used to.
Is Hobot playing tricks on me?


And now I have a white quote background, or did. Hobot is obviously flicking the background
switch off and on!
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Your recent quotes seem alright, just take care that you do not delete any parts of the "[ quote ]" codes that appear at each end of the quote.

You should be able to go back and edit your message using the EDIT button if you need to correct something.
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Thanks LAB, I knew it was finger trouble, just wasn't sure which finger.
 
JimC said:
This would be what we in the states call a Crescent wrench. Proper name is adjustable open-end wrench. (In the U.S. I should add)

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I THINK A GENUINE CRESCENT ADJUSTABLE SPANERR HAS THE TAPER GOING THE OTHER WAY.MY GENUINE 24INCH HAS THE NARROWEST PART OF THE HANDLE AT TO OPPOSITE END TO THE ADJUSTABLE JAWS,
aNYWAY wtf HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH SOMEONES " MOST BEAUTIFULL Norton EVER" WE ALL KNOW beauty IS IN THE EYES OF THE BEHOLDER.
 
kerinorton said:
JimC said:
This would be what we in the states call a Crescent wrench. Proper name is adjustable open-end wrench. (In the U.S. I should add)

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I THINK A GENUINE CRESCENT ADJUSTABLE SPANERR HAS THE TAPER GOING THE OTHER WAY.MY GENUINE 24INCH HAS THE NARROWEST PART OF THE HANDLE AT TO OPPOSITE END TO THE ADJUSTABLE JAWS,
aNYWAY wtf HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH SOMEONES " MOST BEAUTIFULL Norton EVER" WE ALL KNOW beauty IS IN THE EYES OF THE BEHOLDER.
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Who ever previously owned my brother's original butchered Atlas must have had one of those in his tool box, and nothing else. With this alone he stripped and rebuilt the entire motorcycle twice, or so it looked! It was nearly the most god awful beast i have ridden. The worst was a mate"s totally clapped out Triumph 1960 650. it had no fork tops and over bumps it would bottom and up would come a good dosh of fork oil and glonk you straight in the face! I refused to ride it without wearing goggles. Actually, i refused to ride it period!
 
Just a quick question.
Does that "60" on the speed signs still mean what it used to mean?
Doing 60 through the middle of Mittagong shopping centre, I seem to be
going twice as fast as everyone else?? And pedestrians are running for their lives.
 
I THINK A GENUINE CRESCENT ADJUSTABLE SPANERR HAS THE TAPER GOING THE OTHER WAY.MY GENUINE 24INCH HAS THE NARROWEST PART OF THE HANDLE AT TO OPPOSITE END TO THE ADJUSTABLE JAWS,
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The 24" and 18" Crescent wrenches would have the taper as you described. The 12" and under have the taper as pictured. Some knockoffs may be different, but the genuine Crescents are as I described. The one pictured in the post is advertised as a 12".

Something everyone may not know: You can increase the jaw opening by removing the sliding jaw and filing another groove. Many older ironworkers carried such modified Crescents. Today Klein Tools and other manufactures make a 10" spud handle adjustable with a jaw opening greater than 1¼". 1¼" is the size of a nut for a high tensile ¾" diameter bolt which are very common in steel erection.


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Guess I'm way off topic here. My apologies.
 
JimC said:
I THINK A GENUINE CRESCENT ADJUSTABLE SPANERR HAS THE TAPER GOING THE OTHER WAY.MY GENUINE 24INCH HAS THE NARROWEST PART OF THE HANDLE AT TO OPPOSITE END TO THE ADJUSTABLE JAWS,
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The 24" and 18" Crescent wrenches would have the taper as you described. The 12" and under have the taper as pictured. Some knockoffs maybe different, but the genuine Crescents are as I described. The one pictured in the post is advertised as a 12".

Something everyone may not know: You can increase the jaw opening by removing the sliding jaw and filing another groove. Many older ironworkers carried such modified Crescents. Today Klein Tools and other manufactures make a 10" spud handle adjustable with a jaw opening greater than 1¼". 1¼" is the size of a nut for a high tensile ¾" diameter bolt which are very common in steel erection.


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Guess I'm way off topic here. My apologies.
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Forget the off topic bit Jim, that went out the door dozens of posts ago.
My dad not only called such a tool an adjustable spanner, he also referred
to it as a "butcher's tool" to be used as a last resort. He would get right up us for
pulling it out of the box instead of searching for the right size spanner for the job.

So why have you got such a variety of this beastly thing? As though it is revered.
I have never seen one that could maintain its shape under serious application.
I don't refer to the handle, but the jaws. Applied to anything other than a serious
sized nut or bolt, they are a disaster. But even then, why would you?
 
So why have you got such a variety of this beastly thing?
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I was an ironworker for thirty years. May possibly be called riggers in your part of the world.
 
JimC said:
So why have you got such a variety of this beastly thing?
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I was an ironworker for thirty years. May possibly be called riggers in your part of the world.
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And was I an "Ironworker"... Chicago Bridge and Lennox (Later CBI) Aust 1968-9...
 
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