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Trident ~ true phoenix

Discussion in 'Triumph (Classic)' started by Stuart SS, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. Stuart SS

    Stuart SS

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    Many on the site are aware I have been tinkering with a T150V for some years now.. a ragged collection of bits sourced world wide ~

    Well its finally coming together ~ Since then a lot more progress ~ tune - carbs - timing - ect ect ~ I've made since that first start as featured below ~

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neYZvfo2_xk
     
  2. grandpaul

    grandpaul VIP MEMBER

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    There aren't too many exhaust sounds that are as nice, or nicer, than the Triumph/BSA triples' mechanical banshee howl...

    Gotta love it!
     
  3. Stuart SS

    Stuart SS

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  4. ntst8

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    NIce one Stuart, those triples do have a nice howl when wound out.
    I aslo like the bit in the first vid where your camera person is dying of carbon monoxide poisoning while you caringly point out how good the oil pressure is. :mrgreen:
     
  5. Stuart SS

    Stuart SS

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    OK ~ Back for the grand announcement that the T150V E is complete and now tweaking for the initial ride. And the result has been fan-bloody - tastic !!

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  6. swooshdave

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    I can think of one... :roll:
     
  7. grandpaul

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    Rocket III, right?
     
  8. ML

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    Stu,

    That's a Jap front end? If so what type please?

    Mick
     
  9. britbike220

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    The only thing I really miss about my two 72's is that sound of snarling power at 5K and up. Excellent job and don't hurt your face smiling while in the power band!!
     
  10. Stuart SS

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    That's a Yamaha XS750 triple tree ( 1978 about ) , with 1983-4 XJ turbo Yamaha 650/ 750 forks.. 36 mm tubes.

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    The head shaft was extended and re-enforced ~ but after I scored another Yamaha front end but off hand I cannot recall what model ( it has the system adjustment etc mounted on the lower forks ~ )

    The point being that the centre shaft on the later is all be a perfect fit length wise ~ so really no mod would need to be made to the shaft . But the bearing seats have to knocked out of the Triumph head and two steel O rings machined to accommodate the tapered Yamaha bearings.

    Really not that difficult ~

    I have been told this will result in much crisper corner handling but may ~ result in some issue at top speed, because the fork are more in align with the steering head than the original Triumph forks were / are in relation to the steering head.

    I have a steering damper which I will fit ~


    ( A mate in A.C.T. has a same era Suzuki front end in his Trident and was the inspiration for mine ~ )
     
  11. Stuart SS

    Stuart SS

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    Really on the home straight now ~ But ~


    When I went to start the bike again , the ignition was DEAD .. NO spark

    Remove the ignition Tri - Spark module ~ shyte design puts a red LED INSIDE ~

    Run essential tests ~ LED working as stipulated ~

    (Gives up in frustration ~ Monday )

    Tuesday . remove electrical panel .. WHO ~ TF designed this nightmare ~ all but impossible to dismantle with oil lines.. Side panels fitted ~

    Redesign set .. to allow easier removal ~ And fit Tri-Spark as suggested on TOL ~ on seat .. File notch in Tri-Spark panel to allow LED to be seen at ALL times ~


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    'Trace fault.. as there is NO spark but Tri-Spark is OK..??

    Only common link common earth ~ trace earth lead ~ FFS ~ "dry" insulated solder joint to coil earths ~

    JUST DEMONSTRATES>> LESS PACE>> more care to details

    Repair ~

    Refit all and Sundry ~

    Prime ~ fires..

    Runs fine ~ AND sounds OH soooo Sweet ~ that glorious Triple raucous crackle ~ Even idling reasonably .. without fully tune ~

    (Chain guard seems to be OK if not very fine tolerance with the O ring chain. Clutch needs adjustment!)
     
  12. grandpaul

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    That's the first complaint I've ever heard about a Tri Spark ignition. Is that an early example, and the design has changed?
     
  13. Stuart SS

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    Grandpaul

    Not so much a complaint ~ but an observation ` (Perhaps my initial reaction is / was a tad harsh !

    (I bought the unit at a Triples Down Rally in 2008 from direct hand to hand from Steve (Kelly) ~ )

    I am already very impressed with the performance of the unit.. Never seem the Boyer on the Commando THAT keen to fire up ~

    IMO perhaps be a better option to have the LED visible ~ after all if one has a frustration as I did of a failed ignition it would be an asset to have that Test light visible without having to pull the unit off, would it not ?


    BTW equally impressive is the new battery I bought for the Trident ~ a perfect fit ~ Motobatt MB9u ~ optional L & R terminals ~ heavy duty - suitable for starter applications and a great price at $68 AUD. (Available at bike shop near you !!)
     
  14. Stuart SS

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    Well today we rolled the beast out and fired it up ~

    Then started test rides across the two blocks which make up the front yard ~ then instead of waiting for Merete to come home from work and vid the moment ; I off down the road ~ could not help myself ~ lol

    So successful first ride but no video... Adjust the clutch again ~ Then started raining again ~ So hopefully put in another ride tomorrow and video the second ride ~ l


    http://www.youtube.com/user/Britbikerss ... NyDrYQg26s

    The quality of the vid suffered alittle as M reformatted the thing.. but you get the idea..

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  15. grandpaul

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    Cool looking bike.
     
  16. gtsun

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    Really nice bike Stuart. A riding buddy who has allways loved his Kawi MKiii and trillion dollar 6 cylinder Honda CBX is now SO lusting for your bike!
     
  17. pelican

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    man, it sounds good in that video!
     
  18. Stuart SS

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    Thanks blokes..

    Obviously after starting with nothing but an engine and gearbox in a shipping crate ~ It is quite a buzz to see it to completion...

    More video to follow ~ Ride # 2 ~

    Seems like a good time to sell eh ... LOL :shock: :roll: :D :D
     
  19. Matt Spencer

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    Seems to impove the look of the font end no end, putting a British Motorcycle behind it .We'll let you of on that part .
    Big fontana breake would look super cool , like the TZ copy . See youve put dual piston calipers on there too . .
     
  20. Stuart SS

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    A bit of an update

    Lots of sorting and revamping..

    Went for the first decent ride today ~ about 45 kms ~ plan was to get the road worthy for it and that involves riding to the next town where there are couple of qualified spanners . (And yes I do have a CTP !)

    But ran into some issues ~

    First~ spewing oil all over the carbs and rear block.... (think it was coming from the Inlet rocker oil feed.. so I removed the copper washers and fitted more substantial washer.. and tempered both before fitting and torquing to recommended setting of 22 Lbs ~)

    Second the Clutch is a right plik and of course gear changing was not a happy event ~ adjustment is an art .. ( but I seemed to have sorted that now ~ or is that again !!)

    Third ~ As I was going steady ~ a B double started to harangue me..

    So I opted the game ~ giving it a bit of a fist full ~ ~ and the throttle stuck open ~

    So I stopped and noted the indicators.. the Linkage was down so the problem lay with the slides ~ I sorted that ~ But will have to look further into that one ~

    So canned the Road worthy and returned to base ~ BUT got in a great ride and assessment overall ~

    In fact I have a T160 set and will finish those off and fit them ~

    Overall ~ Suspension firm and ride solid.. the way I like it ~

    The brakes front and rear work superbly ~ Handling is positive and sharp ~ Seat rebuild is great ~

    BUT the BIG ONE ~ That exhaust even inside my helmet is SUUEE &^^*( PERB~ What beautiful sound ~ !!! )

    Still no video as I am working nights and M works days so I have been playing by myself ~ But should be this week end ~




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