Trident ~ true phoenix

Stuart SS

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Many on the site are aware I have been tinkering with a T150V for some years now.. a ragged collection of bits sourced world wide ~

Well its finally coming together ~ Since then a lot more progress ~ tune - carbs - timing - ect ect ~ I've made since that first start as featured below ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neYZvfo2_xk
 
There aren't too many exhaust sounds that are as nice, or nicer, than the Triumph/BSA triples' mechanical banshee howl...

Gotta love it!
 
NIce one Stuart, those triples do have a nice howl when wound out.
I aslo like the bit in the first vid where your camera person is dying of carbon monoxide poisoning while you caringly point out how good the oil pressure is. :mrgreen:
 
OK ~ Back for the grand announcement that the T150V E is complete and now tweaking for the initial ride. And the result has been fan-bloody - tastic !!

Trident ~ true phoenix


Trident ~ true phoenix
 
grandpaul said:
There aren't too many exhaust sounds that are as nice, or nicer, than the Triumph/BSA triples' mechanical banshee howl...

Gotta love it!
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I can think of one... :roll:
 
Stu,

That's a Jap front end? If so what type please?

Mick
 
The only thing I really miss about my two 72's is that sound of snarling power at 5K and up. Excellent job and don't hurt your face smiling while in the power band!!
 
That's a Jap front end? If so what type please?
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That's a Yamaha XS750 triple tree ( 1978 about ) , with 1983-4 XJ turbo Yamaha 650/ 750 forks.. 36 mm tubes.

Trident ~ true phoenix


The head shaft was extended and re-enforced ~ but after I scored another Yamaha front end but off hand I cannot recall what model ( it has the system adjustment etc mounted on the lower forks ~ )

The point being that the centre shaft on the later is all be a perfect fit length wise ~ so really no mod would need to be made to the shaft . But the bearing seats have to knocked out of the Triumph head and two steel O rings machined to accommodate the tapered Yamaha bearings.

Really not that difficult ~

I have been told this will result in much crisper corner handling but may ~ result in some issue at top speed, because the fork are more in align with the steering head than the original Triumph forks were / are in relation to the steering head.

I have a steering damper which I will fit ~


( A mate in A.C.T. has a same era Suzuki front end in his Trident and was the inspiration for mine ~ )
 
Really on the home straight now ~ But ~


When I went to start the bike again , the ignition was DEAD .. NO spark

Remove the ignition Tri - Spark module ~ shyte design puts a red LED INSIDE ~

Run essential tests ~ LED working as stipulated ~

(Gives up in frustration ~ Monday )

Tuesday . remove electrical panel .. WHO ~ TF designed this nightmare ~ all but impossible to dismantle with oil lines.. Side panels fitted ~

Redesign set .. to allow easier removal ~ And fit Tri-Spark as suggested on TOL ~ on seat .. File notch in Tri-Spark panel to allow LED to be seen at ALL times ~


Trident ~ true phoenix

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'Trace fault.. as there is NO spark but Tri-Spark is OK..??

Only common link common earth ~ trace earth lead ~ FFS ~ "dry" insulated solder joint to coil earths ~

JUST DEMONSTRATES>> LESS PACE>> more care to details

Repair ~

Refit all and Sundry ~

Prime ~ fires..

Runs fine ~ AND sounds OH soooo Sweet ~ that glorious Triple raucous crackle ~ Even idling reasonably .. without fully tune ~

(Chain guard seems to be OK if not very fine tolerance with the O ring chain. Clutch needs adjustment!)
 
That's the first complaint I've ever heard about a Tri Spark ignition. Is that an early example, and the design has changed?
 
Grandpaul

Not so much a complaint ~ but an observation ` (Perhaps my initial reaction is / was a tad harsh !

(I bought the unit at a Triples Down Rally in 2008 from direct hand to hand from Steve (Kelly) ~ )

I am already very impressed with the performance of the unit.. Never seem the Boyer on the Commando THAT keen to fire up ~

IMO perhaps be a better option to have the LED visible ~ after all if one has a frustration as I did of a failed ignition it would be an asset to have that Test light visible without having to pull the unit off, would it not ?


BTW equally impressive is the new battery I bought for the Trident ~ a perfect fit ~ Motobatt MB9u ~ optional L & R terminals ~ heavy duty - suitable for starter applications and a great price at $68 AUD. (Available at bike shop near you !!)
 
Well today we rolled the beast out and fired it up ~

Then started test rides across the two blocks which make up the front yard ~ then instead of waiting for Merete to come home from work and vid the moment ; I off down the road ~ could not help myself ~ lol

So successful first ride but no video... Adjust the clutch again ~ Then started raining again ~ So hopefully put in another ride tomorrow and video the second ride ~ l


http://www.youtube.com/user/Britbikerss ... NyDrYQg26s

The quality of the vid suffered alittle as M reformatted the thing.. but you get the idea..

Trident ~ true phoenix


Trident ~ true phoenix
 
Really nice bike Stuart. A riding buddy who has allways loved his Kawi MKiii and trillion dollar 6 cylinder Honda CBX is now SO lusting for your bike!
 
Thanks blokes..

Obviously after starting with nothing but an engine and gearbox in a shipping crate ~ It is quite a buzz to see it to completion...

More video to follow ~ Ride # 2 ~

Seems like a good time to sell eh ... LOL :shock: :roll: :D :D
 
Seems to impove the look of the font end no end, putting a British Motorcycle behind it .We'll let you of on that part .
Big fontana breake would look super cool , like the TZ copy . See youve put dual piston calipers on there too . .
 
A bit of an update

Lots of sorting and revamping..

Went for the first decent ride today ~ about 45 kms ~ plan was to get the road worthy for it and that involves riding to the next town where there are couple of qualified spanners . (And yes I do have a CTP !)

But ran into some issues ~

First~ spewing oil all over the carbs and rear block.... (think it was coming from the Inlet rocker oil feed.. so I removed the copper washers and fitted more substantial washer.. and tempered both before fitting and torquing to recommended setting of 22 Lbs ~)

Second the Clutch is a right plik and of course gear changing was not a happy event ~ adjustment is an art .. ( but I seemed to have sorted that now ~ or is that again !!)

Third ~ As I was going steady ~ a B double started to harangue me..

So I opted the game ~ giving it a bit of a fist full ~ ~ and the throttle stuck open ~

So I stopped and noted the indicators.. the Linkage was down so the problem lay with the slides ~ I sorted that ~ But will have to look further into that one ~

So canned the Road worthy and returned to base ~ BUT got in a great ride and assessment overall ~

In fact I have a T160 set and will finish those off and fit them ~

Overall ~ Suspension firm and ride solid.. the way I like it ~

The brakes front and rear work superbly ~ Handling is positive and sharp ~ Seat rebuild is great ~

BUT the BIG ONE ~ That exhaust even inside my helmet is SUUEE &^^*( PERB~ What beautiful sound ~ !!! )

Still no video as I am working nights and M works days so I have been playing by myself ~ But should be this week end ~




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