Starting procedure

Mine has never liked the cold but I keep it on trickle and it is quite reliable. Does yours turn over ok? When you say fifth try does it sound as though it is trying to catch on each try or just spin on the starter. If you run it for a couple of minutes does it then start ok or struggle again?
After five goes today it didn't seem as if it even wanted to try to start. Then on the sixth go as soon as I touched the starter button it burst into life immediately - so abruptly it scared the hell out of me! I let it tick over for a good ten minutes, shut off and then it fired up straight away again. The trouble is I was messing about leaving the throttle and then giving a little throttle and then a lot I can't remember which one worked! I can see I'm going to have to get the clipboard out and do a series of controlled tests!
 
My 2013 CR always required a bit of throttle to start, and some additional to get to a stable idle.
Funny thing I noticed a few years ago when my battery died. After replacing the battery the first stab at the starter button brought the 961 to life immediately, no throttle, no trouble. The idle was rock steady from the start. I let it idle for a few minutes because I was amazed - -It had never idled so well, EVER.

Once the EFI had adapted, it went back to needing throttle to start, and throttle to idle. Go figure.
There really is something not right in the adaptation algorithm in the stock SC Typhoon ECUs.
 
Worth keeping the voltage on the clocks showing whilst attempting to start/restart, so ya get to know where the voltage is at @ each juncture.

This big old donk seems to love a good, strong healthy battery. Worth contemplating a good quality lithium battery for those extra CCA’s? Especially on those cold mornings - maybe?

We’ve had these discussions before and I suspect the Solihull bikes are now set up differently, but my 2015 starts/idles perfectly each time but only if I do not touch the throttle at all until she’s warmed up.

Yep, no shortage of ‘character’ in these machines! 👍
 
My 2013 CR always required a bit of throttle to start, and some additional to get to a stable idle.
Funny thing I noticed a few years ago when my battery died. After replacing the battery the first stab at the starter button brought the 961 to life immediately, no throttle, no trouble. The idle was rock steady from the start. I let it idle for a few minutes because I was amazed - -It had never idled so well, EVER.

Once the EFI had adapted, it went back to needing throttle to start, and throttle to idle. Go figure.
There really is something not right in the adaptation algorithm in the stock SC Typhoon ECUs.
Hello Britwit , This guy has a 2025 961SP …. This is not a Donington bike and definitely not a SC Thyphoon ecu. He really shouldn’t be having any problems. Members that own and ride a TVS might chime in now. I would change those spark plugs pronto ! As an experiment you can determine if your IAC is not opening or not closing properly. Pinch the IAC hose closed with a clamp see how it will start either with or without throttle. Don’t worry about the idle , keep it running with throttle. If it responds to this maybe clean it or replace it. Or go to Stu. !
 
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