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Alan I thank you for inviting me to put words to the most exciting thing I have left in life as I've known it so far, knowing full well what Peel will be able to do with 3x's more pure torque/mas power never able to snap WOT w/o cutting the thrust so constantly in state of reversed controls especially throttle so slow acceleration rate by twisting up and instant spiked accelerate on throttle let offs. You know what it should feel like on a hot rod where it catches rubber with each up shift that slams deeper in seat then eases up but its always got ya pressed back pulling, that's how Peel was up to 90 by throttle alone.
If you study those silly monkey rig antics you'll see why > nothing land based but SuperKarts - AWD rally cars - ice spiked speedway - handling are too limited for Peel to learn from just how hard they are not to lose control trying to turn. Being so crippled any little gain they get is so incremental it makes great spectator sport neck and neck cliffhangers. Slide vs Drive eh, them sidecars are mostly doing what Peel has to on wet pavement, wet snow, wet grass, wet leaves, wet guts, wet diesel, any power over just matching surface speed rear will slide out so to accelerate must make/allow some slide out just beyond what counter steering needed not to flip so rear thrust guides the rig around, not the front. Basically they steer great either way depending on rear grip/alignment. This is same crossed up posture of cages drifing like flat trackers. SO look closer to see instants of those pulling inside short cut passing snatching straight steer > until they over power rear again and have to save fiipping over back to counter steer, ie: front pointed away from the center of radius, Ie: the freeaking wrong way you really want and need to go. Alan you know how fast intense instants of direction change happen like your throttle up to self/steer tight like your hoss knows it way to the barn hands off, just don't fall off in its rush to get there w/o you.
Above is all only phase 1 parking lot, phase 2 ordinary two tire planted counter steering with some luck out instants into Phase 3, like about to hit a boil instead of turning heat off, ugh. Peel would float two inches level extended leap to 60/1st a bounce to float 2" level blood draining extended leap to 90/2nd with accidental matching of increasing rpm power closely matches increasing traction as speed rose. This extended sense is metaphorical out of mind state sense as actually happed in one half a breath cycle or 4 eye blinks to keep zoom up rates refocusing. Peel would lay down on rails both counter steering if I wanted to end up wide before next drag sprint or while straight steering that'd both slow by both tire side slide I could always steer sharper to point could screw right down to the ground pogo off folded up peg. Learned this on snow on SuVee making snow angles but by gosh learned just short of than could still accelerate and turn with front just kept from interfering with rear thrust vector and holding stem off ground d/t no wheelie traction. Peel laid over so fast far would ram air under her for distinct ground effects, distinctly felt coming off the fork leg eddies interacting with spoke blasts and wind gusts. Not sure how to conquer that unpredicable influence on grip and bike angle but did prove when Peel was completely lifted off surface just beyond ground effects she would hold exact same lean angle as left surface and next instant landing felt like nothing but return of smoothness and accelerating restored to carry on like nothing happened so freaking dramatic. So learning that would hit max power to squeal rear a bit entering so any tip off upright drag launch would snap bike down while holding same throttle so even though now on edges only flywheel effect to hook up then can 'smoothly' throttle as rear sqiated > front lifted inward against breathtaking centrifugal force outward, a sideways unicycle wheelie where forks don't take part in. Getting that down pat wondered if a unicycle and slide, yep but only a tire width or so then HI FLY City!!!!
EURKEA! Peel had a Phase Four advantage in control, exactly as ya see the GP ITT and Irish mania cycles flipping surprised pilot off saddle to carry em along side a ways till they hop back on sheepishly, if lucky. I think this could be Peels main way to enjoy her capacity and well know if she can't do that in long sweepers or tight chiances like GP winners do on their cripples then may not work as well as desired. P-4 is only time I feel frame/stem twist out of line about and inch at pegs and Peel can hold that pressure a lot longer than anything else but that also means must be drag racer accelerating to hold that level G pressure on so must let up at some point which releases frame energy. Peel could ease off to 'save' a ruined turn in time or more fun cut power like letting go of sling shot, BANG GONE no traction or power needed and easy to aim fire from the hip. Truly Peel LSD flashed me back to dead family times of b/w tv show downs of single action pistols fanning faster than any modern gun can. Spend some time thinking how in the world a motorcycle can handle pavement like these do ice. I had good Karma to own 2 Norton that floated level dusting all comers through power band though Peel mostly kept a toe hold d/t 2" extra fork extension so still in good control counter steering beyond what short snot cripples can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oKVANz1dsw
If you study those silly monkey rig antics you'll see why > nothing land based but SuperKarts - AWD rally cars - ice spiked speedway - handling are too limited for Peel to learn from just how hard they are not to lose control trying to turn. Being so crippled any little gain they get is so incremental it makes great spectator sport neck and neck cliffhangers. Slide vs Drive eh, them sidecars are mostly doing what Peel has to on wet pavement, wet snow, wet grass, wet leaves, wet guts, wet diesel, any power over just matching surface speed rear will slide out so to accelerate must make/allow some slide out just beyond what counter steering needed not to flip so rear thrust guides the rig around, not the front. Basically they steer great either way depending on rear grip/alignment. This is same crossed up posture of cages drifing like flat trackers. SO look closer to see instants of those pulling inside short cut passing snatching straight steer > until they over power rear again and have to save fiipping over back to counter steer, ie: front pointed away from the center of radius, Ie: the freeaking wrong way you really want and need to go. Alan you know how fast intense instants of direction change happen like your throttle up to self/steer tight like your hoss knows it way to the barn hands off, just don't fall off in its rush to get there w/o you.
Above is all only phase 1 parking lot, phase 2 ordinary two tire planted counter steering with some luck out instants into Phase 3, like about to hit a boil instead of turning heat off, ugh. Peel would float two inches level extended leap to 60/1st a bounce to float 2" level blood draining extended leap to 90/2nd with accidental matching of increasing rpm power closely matches increasing traction as speed rose. This extended sense is metaphorical out of mind state sense as actually happed in one half a breath cycle or 4 eye blinks to keep zoom up rates refocusing. Peel would lay down on rails both counter steering if I wanted to end up wide before next drag sprint or while straight steering that'd both slow by both tire side slide I could always steer sharper to point could screw right down to the ground pogo off folded up peg. Learned this on snow on SuVee making snow angles but by gosh learned just short of than could still accelerate and turn with front just kept from interfering with rear thrust vector and holding stem off ground d/t no wheelie traction. Peel laid over so fast far would ram air under her for distinct ground effects, distinctly felt coming off the fork leg eddies interacting with spoke blasts and wind gusts. Not sure how to conquer that unpredicable influence on grip and bike angle but did prove when Peel was completely lifted off surface just beyond ground effects she would hold exact same lean angle as left surface and next instant landing felt like nothing but return of smoothness and accelerating restored to carry on like nothing happened so freaking dramatic. So learning that would hit max power to squeal rear a bit entering so any tip off upright drag launch would snap bike down while holding same throttle so even though now on edges only flywheel effect to hook up then can 'smoothly' throttle as rear sqiated > front lifted inward against breathtaking centrifugal force outward, a sideways unicycle wheelie where forks don't take part in. Getting that down pat wondered if a unicycle and slide, yep but only a tire width or so then HI FLY City!!!!
EURKEA! Peel had a Phase Four advantage in control, exactly as ya see the GP ITT and Irish mania cycles flipping surprised pilot off saddle to carry em along side a ways till they hop back on sheepishly, if lucky. I think this could be Peels main way to enjoy her capacity and well know if she can't do that in long sweepers or tight chiances like GP winners do on their cripples then may not work as well as desired. P-4 is only time I feel frame/stem twist out of line about and inch at pegs and Peel can hold that pressure a lot longer than anything else but that also means must be drag racer accelerating to hold that level G pressure on so must let up at some point which releases frame energy. Peel could ease off to 'save' a ruined turn in time or more fun cut power like letting go of sling shot, BANG GONE no traction or power needed and easy to aim fire from the hip. Truly Peel LSD flashed me back to dead family times of b/w tv show downs of single action pistols fanning faster than any modern gun can. Spend some time thinking how in the world a motorcycle can handle pavement like these do ice. I had good Karma to own 2 Norton that floated level dusting all comers through power band though Peel mostly kept a toe hold d/t 2" extra fork extension so still in good control counter steering beyond what short snot cripples can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oKVANz1dsw