Pazon yes or no???

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So the charging system on the norty is wasted. The battery only runs for soo long. So I'm wanting to know who state side has bought the pazon system and if the purchase went smooth with shipping and all. If your running it have you had any issues. What did you have to change out from the old stuff? I'm gonna read the manual about the charging system but wanted input on the pazon.
 
I have no experience with the Pazon. I can heartily recommend the Sparx three-phase kit, though.
 
If you're talking about the ignition, because Pazon doesn't make alternators, I'm running a Pazon SureFire now and I'd recommend it.

Its an improvement over my Boyer MkIII. Starts with less effort, revs more cleanly, hasn't kicked-back since it was installed a month and a half ago. Purchased directly, paid online, was here in the States in 10 days from NZ.

If you're talking about charging systems - then the Sparx 3-phase, or single phase for that matter, with the solid state regulator has worked for many people on this board. Myself included.
 
Cool. I read through the manual and I'm wondering if the Zener Diode is gone as it appears it's part of the charging system.
 
the pazon is an electronic ignition system.
the Zener diode is part of the charging system. The pazon doesnt affecct the zener one way or t'other...
British Cycle Supply keep the Pazon in stock 'state side'. I use one on a twin and it's a rock solid system - the ignition 'advance' curve is better suited to the old parallel twin than the boyer is. the price is competitive and reasonable. It is a wasted spark system how ever.
Also up for consideration is the Trispark system - more expensive , but it isnt as wasted spark system - you get a hotter spark (at idle) and less power consumption. They - are both very good to deal with, very easy and complete installation instructions - and very good after sales support.
www.pazon.com
www.trispark.com.au

cheers,
Marc
 
Norvin said:
Also up for consideration is the Trispark system - more expensive , but it isnt as wasted spark system - you get a hotter spark (at idle) and less power consumption.


The Tri-Spark now available for twins is the 'Classic Twin' ignition, and that is a wasted spark system. http://www.trispark.com.au/home/products/
 
With Chopped talking about Zeners, I'm going to assume he's interested int he charging system. Yes, the Zener is gone with the solid state regulator that comes with the Sparx kit.
 
Dr_Hiller said:
With Chopped talking about Zeners, I'm going to assume he's interested int he charging system. Yes, the Zener is gone with the solid state regulator that comes with the Sparx kit.

I meant to say that I think the zener is trash and not working on the bike as the battery is not charging. I need to find out the problem first before I replace something that is not the issue.
 
The Zener will not affect charging, it only prevents OVERcharging.

You need to have a look at your rectifier, the little 3-round-plate apparatus. It should read continuity in one direction, and open circuit in the other direction, on each of the diodes.

There is almost NO reason NOT to replace an old diode bridge rectifier with a modern solid-state unit.

For Triumphs, I especially like the Sparx "finned egg" replacements that also replace the Zener diode; the ultimate classic replacment bit.
 
Just a quick comment about the zener diode: If it is installed incorrectly (i,e backwards relative to the battery) it will drain the batttery and prevent charging. Basically if you are going to use a stock zener you should have a positive earth/ground.
 
Kber45 said:
Just a quick comment about the zener diode: If it is installed incorrectly (i,e backwards relative to the battery) it will drain the batttery and prevent charging. Basically if you are going to use a stock zener you should have a positive earth/ground.

Connecting a negative earth/ground Zener into a positive earth circuit by mistake would create a dead short, which should blow the fuse immediately?
 
have you checked the voltage output at the alternator ? start there - then check the voltage across the reg.
have you put the battery on a charger ,does it hold a charge ,have you checked it ?
check all three one at the time before you buy anything. the zener - is the least likely of your problems - it only prevents overcharging.
if you've got money burning a hole in your pocket - just replace the lot of it, and go for a solid state regulator - there are quite a few options -podtronics,tympanium,sparx etc. they get rid of the zener in turn as well.
g'luck. marc
 
Here's the deal. After fixing the kicker I took her for a 20 miler around the city. Almost to the end the tail light bolts vib'd out and the wire bared itself and popped the fuse. With some duct tape and foil from a cigarette pack on the road shoulder I got it home. Fixed the light and replaced the fuse. Road the bike two more times with no issues. Then I tried to ride it to the shop for some harley parts it died and would not restart. With a battery charger hooked at the shop it fired right up but dead when taken off the life support. Trucked it home and a few days later charged the battery. Rode it 3 more times with no issues. Then yesterday the same thing got her a few miles from home and nothing. Trucked it home again. Gonna have a good look at the electric's tomorrow.
 
chopped850 said:
Here's the deal. After fixing the kicker I took her for a 20 miler around the city. Almost to the end the tail light bolts vib'd out and the wire bared itself and popped the fuse. With some duct tape and foil from a cigarette pack on the road shoulder I got it home. Fixed the light and replaced the fuse. Road the bike two more times with no issues. Then I tried to ride it to the shop for some harley parts it died and would not restart. With a battery charger hooked at the shop it fired right up but dead when taken off the life support. Trucked it home and a few days later charged the battery. Rode it 3 more times with no issues. Then yesterday the same thing got her a few miles from home and nothing. Trucked it home again. Gonna have a good look at the electric's tomorrow.

Sounds exactly like mine when the Zener diode died. I charged up the battery then the zener would blow and create a dead short, blowing the main fuse. Then the bike would be running on the battery only until it went flat while the charge from the alternator was going straight to ground. Replaced zener, charged battery and was good until the next time the zener died. Same scenario. I eventually replaced the rectifier and zener with a Podtronics reg/rec and have had no problems since.
 
"...tried to ride it to the shop for some harley parts..."

You think a Norton doesn't know what's going on?

SHEEESH!!!
 
Calendar?

What calendar?

BB.Com? I'm supposed to get a half dozen along with my sponsorship.
 
Yea that one, I received mine yesterday in the mail so yours should be on the way too, Chuck.
 
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