Ordering From UK (2020)

Tornado · Sep 2, 2020

Recently had a couple of orders from the UK to Canada for classic Mini car parts, but this will likely also apply to Norton parts orders as well.

Both came by courier (DHL; postal shipping to here not an option from the seller). First order had a "brokerage" fee charged by DHL once package was in Canada. This fee is to cover import duty/taxes and the couriers typically "juice" it up with their own special "handling" surcharges...basically to cover filling in the customs paperwork. This was some $50 on top of the $60 shipping cost applied at webstore checkout. Second order, which was for more than double the first's value, only had $17 brokerage. The box had "Antique Car Parts" scrolled all across it. This likely gave it some sort of exemption from Canadian import duty.

Be sure to request this designation if you are ordering anything for your Norton from outside Canada.

Conrad · Sep 2, 2020

Parts have also been arriving via DHL here in Texas. Fedex usually is the one who charges an import fee. I have not yet received a request to pay anything from DHL however.

When I had a parts stash and sold parts to Canada, I would put "Automotive parts for repair" and there was absolutely no import fee associated with that on the Canadian side. I believe this has not changed (you'd have to look it up) but if the parts are used and in a non-functioning state as is, they can be considered 'for repair'.) However I would assume a restored speedo for example, would not be considered 'for repair'.

Tornado · Nov 8, 2020

FYI: I've just had a chat with a local bloke that has ordered parts from a UK source (for his Austin Mini) within past few weeks and the shipment is now held up at Canada Customs with a claim of them no longer accepting "European Union" as country of origin. He has all kinds of issues trying to get the declaration revised from the selling source and then passed to the correct border agency.

More challenges for us all I suspect...

worntorn · Nov 8, 2020

One way around it is to order through Walridge. Mike brings parts in by the shipping container load to reduce shipping costs.

Glen

Tornado · Nov 8, 2020

Yup, I usually go with the MotoParts Inc. shop in Edmonton for Norton stuff.
But, this Mini bloke...he was actually ordering over $7000 worth of parts for his Austin Mini business in Surrey. The issue was the source in UK, a well known on-line retailer, was using the usual declaration of EU. That same issue could affect Canadian importers like Walridge & Motoparts Inc as well as individual buyers, even in the USA.

Tornado · Dec 14, 2020

Putting a new order in from an UK supplier for Mini spare parts....hoping to get the duty exemption on parts for cars/bikes older than 25yrs. Asked them to use the tariff code 9966.00.00 as per the CBSA website:

Memorandum D10-15-20 - Interpretation of Tariff Item 9966.00.00

This memorandum outlines and explains the Canada Border Services Agency’s policy respecting the interpretation of tariff item 9966.00.00 of the Customs Tariff and the goods that are eligible for consideration under this tariff item.

www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca

Ctefeh · Dec 14, 2020

My RGM order came via DHL too. Note in the package said Royal Mail service had been "suspended" for the time being.

Tornado · Dec 14, 2020

Yes I've heard that too. This order placed today, has a couple of "special order" items and I've requested nothing to be sent until all items included. Not is a hurry so no biggie. All their overseas shipments come DHL anyway.

SteveBorland · Dec 15, 2020

With the impending train smash Brixit events looking to come to some form of end this month, I've simply been ordering all the bits I think I will be needing now rather than waiting until I actually do need them.

After 1 Jan, EU customers will not have to pay UK VAT at 20%, but here in Denmark, we will (probably) pay some form of customs tariff, a handling fee of around £30, then Danish VAT of 25% on the original price plus the postage, plus customs tariff + handling fee, so especially for smaller orders, it will be rather expensive. Even if thee is some form of Brexit agreement, it will only remove the customs tariff, leaving the rest in place.

I'll probably end up buying more stuff from Andover Norton's German site to avoid this, but then there's all the goodies available from RGM :-(
Fortunately, I do have a brother in the UK who is willing to send me a lot of gifts....

Madnorton · Dec 15, 2020

We have just added all the commodity tariff codes for each part, this is not a Brexit thing but a global thing that will eventually apply to all. Country of origin is next, but a little bit more involved. AN have to declare what is in each parcel to our shippers, this makes the handling easier for the customs that will deal with it in the receiving country, we cannot flout this rule or we will get marked which as a business would not be helpful. Denmark is different despite being a 'bit part' of Europe. The regulations surrounding shipments from the UK as of now and in the past are the same for any other country sending parts to Denmark - they have their own rules that the UK and others like France and Germany when sending parts have to adhere to - its a Denmark rule. After the 1st of Jan, then the UK will use WTO rules if no agreement is reached, just as we do for the southern hemisphere and North America.

SteveBorland · Dec 15, 2020

Madnorton said:
We have just added all the commodity tariff codes for each part, this is not a Brexit thing but a global thing that will eventually apply to all. Country of origin is next, but a little bit more involved. AN have to declare what is in each parcel to our shippers, this makes the handling easier for the customs that will deal with it in the receiving country, we cannot flout this rule or we will get marked which as a business would not be helpful. Denmark is different despite being a 'bit part' of Europe. The regulations surrounding shipments from the UK as of now and in the past are the same for any other country sending parts to Denmark - they have their own rules that the UK and others like France and Germany when sending parts have to adhere to - its a Denmark rule. After the 1st of Jan, then the UK will use WTO rules if no agreement is reached, just as we do for the southern hemisphere and North America.

As I understand it, the rules are the same for all EU nations, so it does not really matter if it's Denmark or Sweden or Malta? Anyway, I suspect that Jo´s German site is going to see rather more traffic after New Year.

Madnorton · Dec 15, 2020

Not quite, they differ in how they collect VAT compared to other EU nations collect VAT amongst themselves. Joe might be busy, but if the pound takes a hit so will AN.

marinatlas · Mar 19, 2022

Madnorton said:
Not quite, they differ in how they collect VAT compared to other EU nations collect VAT amongst themselves. Joe might be busy, but if the pound takes a hit so will AN.

My last order from AN , I had used DPD (delivery duty paid) so I had paid the VAT and normally I should not paid the french TVA , but not, so I had to pay twice the VAT/TVA ? despite calling Steve at AN and showing all the details , nothing happen .........
while with RGM , they invoiced me VAT free and I paid the French TVA on arrival , quite more simple and cheaper !

Ordering From UK (2020)

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