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AussieCombat said:
G'day bobunome, welcome to a most entertaining place.
Sounds like you have some interesting bits and pieces there.
Are you sure the bike was Green before, as I had a really early Commando (Fastback) that was Orange and Silver
and am told it was an original colour scheme.
Get it up and running and enjoy it for what it is, or you can strip every part of it and dump truckloads of money on it,
the choice is yours. it's all fun..eventually.
Reliable and safe is STEP ONE.
AC.
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Yes it was originally British Racing green. You can see the original colour inside the side cover. The ownership even says green.

That's not to say that it hasn't been painted a couple of times. Further investigation should tell.

I am a little surprised that it still has the widow maker frame though. I will report my findings after further investigation. It was last licensed in 1989 so it has a lot of years and miles on that old style frame.
 
Matt Spencer said:
Yes, Go for the Silver , Green Circle on tank , & Orange seat . Then you can park next to Katanas and induce hysteria & neurosis . :D Any Pictures ? please .
http://www.classicbike.biz/Norton/A_Lin ... andoAd.pdf

http://www.bikeexif.com/norton-commando-2

You can ligitimately use a Black Exhaust as per J P S too , if youre keen to rub it in .

Mayve been the Prototype with Round Green badge & Peculiar seat colour , for its day .

P.R. in N.Z. was same ' grey ' as bikeexif pic , quite subdued . ' nodescript ' , officer ! 8)[/quote

It is old enough that it has the recesses in the tank sides and on the tail section for the original round badges. At some point someone has added the newer upswept peashooter mufflers. It will never be entirely original as long as I own it. The newer engine and exhaust are nicer in my mind.
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Welcome to the forum. It's far enough afield that it can be anything you want it to be. Truth be known, it WILL be what you wanted it to be, else you wouldn't have bought it to start with; certainly you saw the potential in it.

Less expensive to buy a better frame than to fix that one, till you calculate the cost to title the frame in your name if you've already paid to title the bike you bought. then, it's a toss-up.
 
welcome bobunufe! .. good to know you..
btw, I am in ottawa and perhaps we may meet to share some stories! let me know..
 
grandpaul said:
Welcome to the forum. It's far enough afield that it can be anything you want it to be. Truth be known, it WILL be what you wanted it to be, else you wouldn't have bought it to start with; certainly you saw the potential in it.

Less expensive to buy a better frame than to fix that one, till you calculate the cost to title the frame in your name if you've already paid to title the bike you bought. then, it's a toss-up.
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The title is no problem. The frame I have has the numbers stamped directly into the frame. Easy to do on a replacement frame with a set of numbered punches.

I do have a mig welder and know how to weld on the frame without heat warping it. I understand these frames are cold drawn mild steel so nothing exotic.

I am looking at a used frame on flea bay but I can repair my frame myself and if I want to do a complete restore after getting it reliable and safe I may spring for a new reprocuction frame. I dont want to buy a used frame only to find out it is torqued.
 
Lorenzo said:
welcome bobunufe! .. good to know you..
btw, I am in ottawa and perhaps we may meet to share some stories! let me know..
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What part of Ottawa are you located in? I am in North Gower. I will try to PM you.
 
MORE OF YOUR STUPIDITY. the frame DID NOT have the vin # stamped in it , all that is needed is to replace the vin plate from the old frame to the replacement frame.

grandpaul said:
Less expensive to buy a better frame than to fix that one, till you calculate the cost to title the frame in your name if you've already paid to title the bike you bought. then, it's a toss-up.
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bill said:
MORE OF YOUR STUPIDITY. the frame DID NOT have the vin # stamped in it , all that is needed is to replace the vin plate from the old frame to the replacement frame.

grandpaul said:
Bill:

Less expensive to buy a better frame than to fix that one, till you calculate the cost to title the frame in your name if you've already paid to title the bike you bought. then, it's a toss-up.
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The frame I have DOES have the vin stamped directly into the metal as did other Commandos of this vintage. What is this "MORE OF YOUR STUPIDITY" stuff. This is my first thread on this forum. You don't know me or my motorcycle. Have you got me confused with someone else or is this how you treat all new members?

I will take a picture of the VIN so that people that know everything can know even more.

The VIN can absolutely be put on VIN plate and then install the VIN plate on the motorcycle but that would not be accurate for a Norton from the first year of production. Not that this matters as the bike will never be 100% original anyway.

I have read other posts on this forum where the subject of VIN plates has been discussed and several others have agreed that some Commandos had the VIN stamped directly into the frame. You may not be familiar with the very early Commandos and I don't know when they started using the VIN plates but I do know that my bike has no VIN plate or rivet holes for a VIN plate. It is the 820th Production Commando ever Built.

It is a bike imported to and sold in Canada and for all I know the Canadian authorities may not have accepted removable VIN plates so bikes destined for Canada may have all had the numbers stamped into the metal. Just a thought.

I did not come here to bash anyone so please do not bash me. If you want to call people STUPID then please arm yourself with knowledge and facts.

Regards
bobunome :
 
G'day Bob and welcome. We're all pretty passionate about these bikes as you can plainly see. You will find a wealth of knowledge and enthusiasm here and people pleased to share what they have.
 
bill said:
MORE OF YOUR STUPIDITY. the frame DID NOT have the vin # stamped in it , all that is needed is to replace the vin plate from the old frame to the replacement frame.

grandpaul said:
Less expensive to buy a better frame than to fix that one, till you calculate the cost to title the frame in your name if you've already paid to title the bike you bought. then, it's a toss-up.
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I think Windy is starting to lose it. :cry:
 
swooshdave said:
I think Windy is starting to lose it. :cry:
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Yeah, I think we could do with less of that kind of reply.

Dave
69S
 
Welcome to the forum, with some really entertaining characters here, that as you can see are totally passionate about the Norton marque. The most important thing to do is enjoy the restoration, and go along with your likes and thought flow.
On my restoration, I was originally going to restore back to original but having read and seen some ideas and projects here, I may just go with what I like,as it is likely to be less stressful and will produce the end result that I want.
Enjoy.....
 
DogT said:
Yeah, I think we could do with less of that kind of reply.
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Yes, we can do without insults and name-calling here.

bobunome said:
bill said:
MORE OF YOUR STUPIDITY. the frame DID NOT have the vin # stamped in it , all that is needed is to replace the vin plate from the old frame to the replacement frame.

grandpaul said:
Less expensive to buy a better frame than to fix that one, till you calculate the cost to title the frame in your name if you've already paid to title the bike you bought. then, it's a toss-up.
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I did not come here to bash anyone so please do not bash me. If you want to call people STUPID then please arm yourself with knowledge and facts.
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I somehow think Bill's comments were not actually aimed at you, bobunome, but at somebody else, however those comments are still unacceptable.
 
My first Norton,a 70 s ,was purchased from Ottawa's Capital City Cycle and driven there for a good 6 years. 15 years later Crazy Combat was found in an Ottawa shed asleep like Rumplestiltskin for 25 years. Sometimes I drink like WAY too many beers and it makes me feel totally stoopid. What to do ?
 
Going back to the original question. Does anyone know how many actual frames ever separated ? I can believe that ones which wound up in scrambles or were wheelied hard riding double may have done that. Since Norton provided the fix they might have provided service bulletins. Does anyone have reprints of these or actual information on the failures ?
 
snortinnorton said:
Going back to the original question. Does anyone know how many actual frames ever separated ? I can believe that ones which wound up in scrambles or were wheelied hard riding double may have done that. Since Norton provided the fix they might have provided service bulletins. Does anyone have reprints of these or actual information on the failures ?
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Read this:

where-was-the-reynolds-factory-that-made-commando-frames-t11402-60.html#p130539
 
alexhobo said:
welcome to the forum. Good luck on the bike!
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I hope everyone had a good Christmas.

Thanks for the welcome. Here are a few pictures some of which do indeed show the serial number stamped into the stearing head.

The widowmaker frame shows no signs of any damage...................... YET!

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Very Good .

If someone found a rare and Bizzarre engine ?? Checking what the valve clearnces were . BEFORE DISMANTLING IT . might ! be a Good Idea .Then youd know . and so on . . .

NOW ,

I presume , believe , etc , that ' some people mayve set em tight ' . The ISOLASTICS .

We All Know What That'd Do ,( Except me , theyre fine over 2 1/2 clearance, useing a leaver setting )

But , the point is , the ISSUE ., these new fangled frames and the learning curve . IF the front Iso was
full of road grit , glue , the mounts were missaligned , something was at an angle , rammed a car , the outhouse
or thought the engine was falling out so ' tightened that bit up ' , with the 50 % balance factor , it could lead to Trouble .

Create myths , and generall PARANOIA . :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)

Id have a good poke around to check all the specs and settings that have ensured its longivity .Someone mightve known
WHAT THEY WERE DOING . :D
 
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