New electric start conversion

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cNw said:
Here's a first image of what the inner cover will look like polished. Image quality is not 100 % and it really looks like a mirror finish. It will certainly dull back over time, but relatively easy to keep up with some common aluminum cleaners and micro fiber towels (forget your old t-shirts....they will scratch it up)






So there would obviously be a big difference. John brought this up yesterday when we talked and the more I think about it, I can definitely see the need for a more subtle finish as well. Either go with more of a grey tone, stock look or a highly polished look. The satin would work well with a well used outer primary and for those that wanted to go all out, we also have a billet outer cover that will really finish off the whole assembly if you are going for the polished finish

Options are good though, so this is what we would be looking at:

- Polished with chrome starter
- Polished with black wrinkle finish starter
- Satin with chrome starter
- Satin with black wrinkle finish starter

As far as price difference, it would essentially come down to sand and polish time. On this cover it's 1-1.5 hours, so a 75.00-110.00 difference in price

Like John said, we would like to get feedback, so let us know what you think

Matt / Colorado Norton Works

http://www.coloradonortonworks.com
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Damn that looks good. And, I recognize that engine number. That's my bike, build 119. So you see the kit has to work LOL I cannot wait to see her at Barber
 
Yellow_Cad said:
How about offering a highly polished kit and a satin kit for a slightly different price for each? Jim
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Check my last post and you will see the 4 possible kits we may offer ( 2 polished and 2 satin). Below that is also the price difference between those kits

Matt / Colorado Norton Works

www.coloradonortonworks.com
 
Yellow_Cad said:
Matt, when do you intend to post the final prices for complete kits? Is Barber the soonest? Jim
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Jim,

We are looking at all the costs involved and will have a firm number at Barbers. If sooner, I will post right away.

Still working out final details but nothing that will ultimately change the price

Matt / Colorado Norton Works

www.coloradonortonworks.com
 
Well, i'm happy i'm on the list, and just sorry I won't see it at Barber. That is a damned fine looking piece of kit and I know you'll stand behind it. Almost a shame to cover it up. And I'm thinking this collaboration you've got going with the se Florida chaps will result in all manner of happy endings...
 
does anybody know if there is an electric start kit available that would fit a 1964 atlas, ours has already had a belt conversion, I find it hard enough to kick start at 43, my poor old dad is nearly 70 ! any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated
 
never heard of one, but now you mention it hmm, I think the crankshaft/tranny mainshaft center distance is different if I recall from Cammando to Atlas
but where theres a will theres a way. I'm sure it could be done, better to get the knack of starting a finely tuned bike, it can be very easy to start.
 
Hi Kmr, just if you accept it, you have to fit your atlas engine same way as commando one (idest tilted with appropriate plates), and thus you could fit the inner cdo inner primary case .......just my quick thoughts!
 
kmr5372 said:
does anybody know if there is an electric start kit available that would fit a 1964 atlas, ours has already had a belt conversion, I find it hard enough to kick start at 43, my poor old dad is nearly 70 ! any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated
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See adding-alton-starter-cafe-racer-t21457.html not stock by a wide margin, but it may give you some ideas :-)

Jean
 
kmr5372 said:
does anybody know if there is an electric start kit available that would fit a 1964 atlas, ours has already had a belt conversion, I find it hard enough to kick start at 43, my poor old dad is nearly 70 ! any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated
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KMR / Where are you located

My shop is where this starter was designed and built I would like to make this kit for the Atlas also, but do not have an Atlas to check what would have to be done to modify ( if necessary) If the bolt pattern for mounting the inner primary, the distance from crank center to clutch basket center, and space under the carbs / frame where the same as Commando, this kit might be a bolt on for the Atlas

John
 
Hi, unfortunatly the crank/clutch distance is not the same , that's why he must tilt his engine as cdo , to recover the appropriate one.
 
I'll be ordering one of these systems from CNW for my 850, but I also have an Atlas and a 650SS and would love to put an electric start system on both of them as well. I realise that a well tuned and set up bike is pretty easy to start with the kick starter, but a button is so much easier. The other difficulty faced in designing such a conversion is the 650SS and Atlas engines have either a points housing or a magneto behind the cylinder, so space for the electric starter is limited. I've wondered about something like OldBritts system, which has a starter mounted further back that directly engages on a ring gear on the back of the clutch hub. Something like that might be possible. Certainly, if a system was available that allowed me to retain an upright engine I would buy two, and I know of at least two others that would put their orders in. On a world scale I would think the potential market would have to be reasonable sizable, as there's a lot of featherbed twins out there with ageing owners.
 
The Old Britts system can be fitted to a featherbed twin. Kenny Cummings, with help from Fred at Old Britts, built a bike like that for Billy Joel. The last time I talked to Fred about it, he still had the drawings and design information, so, if you want one, talk to Fred. I don't know if he can supply the engine mounting plates to suit, but if not, he'd probably give you the info to make your own. I'm using his sytem for my MK3 build, and he's been really helpful about passing on design information so I can do mine a little differently.

Ken
 
[quote="bsabos ]..................Certainly, if a system was available that allowed me to retain an upright engine I would buy two, and I know of at least two others that would put their orders in. On a world scale I would think the potential market would have to be reasonable sizable, as there's a lot of featherbed twins out there with ageing owners.[/quote]
There is the quiet power drive or QPD electric start conversion available if your so inclined.
 
I think Old Britts is out of the electric starter business nowadays, and I tried QPD a year or two ago and didn't get a reply to my email. If CNW can come up with something I'd be fist in line. Everything I've bought from them has been beautifully made and works just as intended.
 
bsaboss said:
I think Old Britts is out of the electric starter business nowadays, and I tried QPD a year or two ago and didn't get a reply to my email. If CNW can come up with something I'd be fist in line. Everything I've bought from them has been beautifully made and works just as intended.
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I don't think Fred is completely out of the starter business. I bought all the bits that I needed from him earlier this year with no problem. I didn't buy his engine cradle or primary covers, because I'm doing my own with some mods, but I bought pretty much everything else from his kit.

Ken
 
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