What's happening at Norton? Sale to TVS, massive investment, new bikes...

"Recognise the past, but don't be harnessed by it" so says Professor Gerry McGovern, Norton's chief creative advisor . That just about sums it up for me, I think that should draw a line under all the Bitchin.
 
Waitlist started on the Norton site - delivery early 26 apparently.

Dealers openly advertising the Manx/R. Wonder if they’ll have a formal release for the press.

What's happening at Norton? Sale to TVS, massive investment, new bikes...
 
"Built for those that demand the extraordinary"....and don't give a shit about the security of their investment, or, if it's actually rideable
 
robs ss said:
"Built for those that demand the extraordinary"....and don't give a shit about the security of their investment, or, if it's actually rideable
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Or available. Best I can tell the "Waitlist" is just a way to collect marketing info. The site has no prices, schedules, or where they might be available that I can find. Also, no specifications other than power. For instance, seat height can make a bike unrideable for some.
 
I’m sure it’s rideable. I thought TVS/Norton were trying to lower the prices on these ? They were talking about competitive pricing Inread that too .
I’m expecting or hoping sub 30 usd.
 
My guess is they’re gonna be:

a. available;
b. rideable; and,
c. warrantied.

Unless you’re a scheptical dwarf with security issues! Although I do worry that ithey may not meet my required specifications🙃!

What's happening at Norton? Sale to TVS, massive investment, new bikes...


What's happening at Norton? Sale to TVS, massive investment, new bikes...
 
TonyA said:
I’m sure it’s rideable. I thought TVS/Norton were trying to lower the prices on these ? They were talking about competitive pricing Inread that too .
I’m expecting or hoping sub 30 usd.
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Not sure about these First Edition models Tony - full carbon bodywork, wheels, race exhaust etc.

Expect there might be a base model coming with normal bodywork, V4sv type wheels and a standard exhaust to meet the Penegale price point. Maybe the higher spec items as optional extras.
 
It's a lot of coin to drop on a machine with no dealer network here in the USA. There's more dealerships closing down here than opening up. We don't even have a motorcycle show to go to anymore. TVS would have to make some impact in the next couple of years to change my mind.
 
speirmoor said:
It's a lot of coin to drop on a machine with no dealer network here in the USA. There's more dealerships closing down here than opening up. We don't even have a motorcycle show to go to anymore. TVS would have to make some impact in the next couple of years to change my mind.
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Amazon will bring them to you.
 
speirmoor said:
It's a lot of coin to drop on a machine with no dealer network here in the USA. There's more dealerships closing down here than opening up. We don't even have a motorcycle show to go to anymore. TVS would have to make some impact in the next couple of years to change my mind.
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I think building a dealer network here in the US in the next few years will be a tough row to hoe for Norton.
If their stuff is up to snuff with the M/C press and online testers, it will make things easier for them.
But, they'll need North American sales to succeed.
 
I do not ever see Norton being successful here in the states. As far as sport bikes and adv bikes, BMW, ktm, Ducati, and the Japanese brands have that market flooded.

Nobody likes to admit it, but people here don’t either know who Norton is, or doesn’t know they’re in business. And the ones who do, I highly doubt they’re in the market for a sport bike.

Anytime I rode my 961’s, most all of the people that approached me were seniors and none of them knew Norton was even making bikes. The younger crowd, never heard of Norton.

How does TVS expect to address the younger crowd?
How many people in the age bracket that buys a sports bike is spending 40-60k?
I get that Norton is thinking it’s a premium bike or brand, I just don’t see it going well here.

MV sales are in the gutter here, the 2 dealers here closed last year.
One triumph dealer and one Harley dealer closed here within the last 2 years. I will say that the Harley dealer needed to go, there are literally 4 here within a 20 mile radius.

All while a new triumph / Ducati dealer opened last winter.
 
NorTriDuc said:
I do not ever see Norton being successful here in the states. As far as sport bikes and adv bikes, BMW, ktm, Ducati, and the Japanese brands have that market flooded.

Nobody likes to admit it, but people here don’t either know who Norton is, or doesn’t know they’re in business. And the ones who do, I highly doubt they’re in the market for a sport bike.

Anytime I rode my 961’s, most all of the people that approached me were seniors and none of them knew Norton was even making bikes. The younger crowd, never heard of Norton.

How does TVS expect to address the younger crowd?
How many people in the age bracket that buys a sports bike is spending 40-60k?
I get that Norton is thinking it’s a premium bike or brand, I just don’t see it going well here.

MV sales are in the gutter here, the 2 dealers here closed last year.
One triumph dealer and one Harley dealer closed here within the last 2 years. I will say that the Harley dealer needed to go, there are literally 4 here within a 20 mile radius.

All while a new triumph / Ducati dealer opened last winter.
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The Triumph dealer here is strong and continues to add manufacturers. If Norton is smart, they will seek out dealers like that and make it attractive to be a dealer. However, a "just another" bike that costs more than any other brand the dealer sells is not likely to be welcome!

I believe Norton can make it in the US, but they will have to spend real money, provide something different, and be real attractive to dealers and customers - so far, I've seen no willingness to do that. They are WAY too proud of HP that is completely unusable in the US and can be had for WAY less money. They need to start with a warranty better than BMW who currently holds the best in the business AFAIK.
 
speirmoor said:
It's a lot of coin to drop on a machine with no dealer network here in the USA. There's more dealerships closing down here than opening up. We don't even have a motorcycle show to go to anymore. TVS would have to make some impact in the next couple of years to change my mind.
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we have this upcoming

SUPERSHOW – North America International Motorcycle Supershow

motorcyclesupershow.ca motorcyclesupershow.ca

North American Motorcycle Supershow



interesting also to me is there are ~ 20 bsa dealers in the states & all over the world vs zip up here (scroll out)
www.bsacompany.co.uk

Dealerships

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Toronto is not that far away. Maybe I can grab a cheap flight. Nothing better than a bike show when its snowing outside.
 
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