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There's probably a very simple way to make your own UFO but I don't know how the epoxy material would hold up in a flow of atomized gas.. unless... you used the modeled shape to fabricate an identical part.... using it's dimensions to machine another out of aluminum or brass?
There's an epoxy putty that is in 2 parts. You merely unpeel the separating material and knead it together for a minute or so and it is like a malleable putty. If you had a carb you were willing to use to make the part, you can line both the bottom of the carb and the bottom of the slide with plastic wrap. Then just fill the bottom of the slide up with the epoxy and maybe let it set up slightly maybe a minute and then press the slide down into the carb body. It will conform to all the ridges of the carb inside and when it sets up ..PRESTO you have the shape you need. You could take that part and even replicate it from aluminum or bass on a lathe and use a Dremel moto tool to take away unneeded material.
Carburetors have always had a checkered past with fuel saving gadgets and also a history of people swearing both, that they work .....and also lots of people...swearing AT them.
That, unfortunately ...IS.. a ROADBLOCK for lots of people and.... the thought persists of getting stung with carb devices. Motorcycle riders want things sorted out, mostly, especially carb things. The idea behind it... is sound and the reason why Mikuni and AMal never got with it could be any number of reasons. They had a solid demand for their existing carbs and the mind can be lazy with success of an existing design.
One example of missing what is right there...in front of our noses... is the idea behind a crossplane crankshaft as Yamaha now uses. That idea was ALWAYS there but no one keyed into it. ANd its a simple idea as well. For many decades it went unnoticed in all the engine building that went on in racing and from personal innovation.
Everyone missed it.
Calling that crossplane innovation..more snake oil ....now that its available in production....would be going against strong evidence that better balanced motors... are a good thing. Kevin Cameron wrote an article explaining how power is spun up better by minimizing opposing inertial forces.
As far as ME authenticating MY results... on a dyno ..as a favor to a derisive skeptic... to convince him of anything ...that's not gonna happen. .... SORRY. Don't wait up ...on the HP readings.
Nobody is gonna take anyone's hand and walk them through life to keep someone safe from false advertising.
If you're extremely fortunate someone MIGHT out of the goodness of his heart... share something with you.... but if you are not that kind of person yourself, its highly unlikely.
Dennis gave me some fabulous feedback on his Flatslide Mikuni and provided me with his jetting notes without hesitation. I was blown away with his carb notes and his willingness to provide me the details.
The Flat slide carb uses the same idea as what the UFO is based on... with a smooth flow of air at low throttle openings through the carb throat and beyond , doing away with the turbulent air after escaping the Jetstream under the slide. That is common knowledge. It works.
Someone just had to figure it out, and come up with a solution.
This idea can be read about on another website JWS ( Schmitt) or something like that... where he develops PMK Keihin flatslides for the Norton and Triumph twins.
Magazines have tested the Thunder products UFO installed on dirt bikes and snowmobiles..with some pretty glowing reports. Some research will pull up those tests.
Hobot felt the response in Wesleys VM Mikuni single and Hobot had nothing at all to do with the tinkering or investment in it! How does that figure in any PLACEBO theory?
Wesley had his UFO given him and the jetting info as well. I don't see how you can say his results has something to do with his own investment in it causing a PLACEBO effect?
Ludwig came to ...the identical CONCEPT on his own. Maybe he ate some of those... PLACEBOS...and.... came down with something?
You will never get... more BACK .... than you are willing to invest ...in yourself... or in others.
I just happened to answer an inquiry and provided "my FEEDBACK" on the Thunder Products device based on my work to explain ....what is necessary, if you consider purchasing the UFO.
The Thunder Products Crossvane device....I think its around $100. The UFO if I recall was $49?
Smoke 'em... if you got 'em....
Tman
CNW 009 (licensed to THRILL)
There's an epoxy putty that is in 2 parts. You merely unpeel the separating material and knead it together for a minute or so and it is like a malleable putty. If you had a carb you were willing to use to make the part, you can line both the bottom of the carb and the bottom of the slide with plastic wrap. Then just fill the bottom of the slide up with the epoxy and maybe let it set up slightly maybe a minute and then press the slide down into the carb body. It will conform to all the ridges of the carb inside and when it sets up ..PRESTO you have the shape you need. You could take that part and even replicate it from aluminum or bass on a lathe and use a Dremel moto tool to take away unneeded material.
Carburetors have always had a checkered past with fuel saving gadgets and also a history of people swearing both, that they work .....and also lots of people...swearing AT them.
That, unfortunately ...IS.. a ROADBLOCK for lots of people and.... the thought persists of getting stung with carb devices. Motorcycle riders want things sorted out, mostly, especially carb things. The idea behind it... is sound and the reason why Mikuni and AMal never got with it could be any number of reasons. They had a solid demand for their existing carbs and the mind can be lazy with success of an existing design.
One example of missing what is right there...in front of our noses... is the idea behind a crossplane crankshaft as Yamaha now uses. That idea was ALWAYS there but no one keyed into it. ANd its a simple idea as well. For many decades it went unnoticed in all the engine building that went on in racing and from personal innovation.
Everyone missed it.
Calling that crossplane innovation..more snake oil ....now that its available in production....would be going against strong evidence that better balanced motors... are a good thing. Kevin Cameron wrote an article explaining how power is spun up better by minimizing opposing inertial forces.
As far as ME authenticating MY results... on a dyno ..as a favor to a derisive skeptic... to convince him of anything ...that's not gonna happen. .... SORRY. Don't wait up ...on the HP readings.
Nobody is gonna take anyone's hand and walk them through life to keep someone safe from false advertising.
If you're extremely fortunate someone MIGHT out of the goodness of his heart... share something with you.... but if you are not that kind of person yourself, its highly unlikely.
Dennis gave me some fabulous feedback on his Flatslide Mikuni and provided me with his jetting notes without hesitation. I was blown away with his carb notes and his willingness to provide me the details.
The Flat slide carb uses the same idea as what the UFO is based on... with a smooth flow of air at low throttle openings through the carb throat and beyond , doing away with the turbulent air after escaping the Jetstream under the slide. That is common knowledge. It works.
Someone just had to figure it out, and come up with a solution.
This idea can be read about on another website JWS ( Schmitt) or something like that... where he develops PMK Keihin flatslides for the Norton and Triumph twins.
Magazines have tested the Thunder products UFO installed on dirt bikes and snowmobiles..with some pretty glowing reports. Some research will pull up those tests.
Hobot felt the response in Wesleys VM Mikuni single and Hobot had nothing at all to do with the tinkering or investment in it! How does that figure in any PLACEBO theory?
Wesley had his UFO given him and the jetting info as well. I don't see how you can say his results has something to do with his own investment in it causing a PLACEBO effect?
Ludwig came to ...the identical CONCEPT on his own. Maybe he ate some of those... PLACEBOS...and.... came down with something?
You will never get... more BACK .... than you are willing to invest ...in yourself... or in others.
I just happened to answer an inquiry and provided "my FEEDBACK" on the Thunder Products device based on my work to explain ....what is necessary, if you consider purchasing the UFO.
The Thunder Products Crossvane device....I think its around $100. The UFO if I recall was $49?
Smoke 'em... if you got 'em....
Tman
CNW 009 (licensed to THRILL)