Side stand pivot bracket.

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1971 Roadster I recently acquired came without a side stand. Even though it’s a ‘71, it appears that it has an earlier frame with the sidestand lug on the inside of the frame member. I’ve gotten the stand, pivot bolt, and spring but it appears that I also need the pivot bracket 06. 0675. I haven’t been able to find an illustration of how this bracket mounts to the frame. It has two threaded holes for studs and nuts but I can’t see how it mounts. Thanks in advance for any insights.
 
'71 is a one-off sidestand year, replacement new stands are all '72 and later. They require attaching a bracket to the frame which needs to be brazed up at the right angle. If you have a working center stand, I would forget about putting a sidestand on a '71 unless your bike still has its lug and you have the original stand somewhere. Most were broken off long ago.
 
Andover Norton on their 71 frame repair parts page lists the 72 onwards weld on lug bracket for use with 72 onwards parts.

andover-norton.co.uk

Andover Norton Parts Drawings - Andover Norton Factory Parts - Commando Parts

Andover Norton Parts are the only Norton spare parts in the market manufactured to original drawings, within the factory-approved tolerances, from the correct materials, and with the correct finish.
andover-norton.co.uk andover-norton.co.uk

None of the 71 parts are listed.

So either convert to 72+ or use the centre stand.
 
Andover Norton 68-70 drawings show the prop stand and associated parts including the bracket 06.0675 but they are just photos of the parts and not a drawing and how it goes together. Had I not already purchased the other parts, I’d probably just forget about the sidestand but I’m somewhat committed now. It would be more convenient for short stops like opening a gate or garage door.
 
68-70 is different than '71, and AN's website wants '71 owners to convert to a later stand.

You need to grind off some of the frame paint, mock up/assemble the stand on the lug, ensure angle allows for a range of motion of the leg where the rubber bumper / stopper comes in contact with the rear frame. Not complicated just takes some skill and the right equipment.


Side stand pivot bracket.
 
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My late 70 had the lug , 2 bolts to bracket and short sidestand . I found it just fine , but others liked the long prop , requiring measuring and welding up .
The centerstand was horrid , no feet , narrow , fragile and the bike would fall over if if put up on any less than perfect surface .
 
Thanks elefantrider,deets55 and Torontonian. I looked at photos of pre ‘71 frames and saw that they had ears that the pivot bracket bolted to. The article that deets55 provided confirms that I in fact have a ‘71 frame. The upgrade would definitely be worth it if I were doing a restoration. However, that isn’t in the cards and I don’t see how you could do this with the engine in the frame. It appears that a bolt on sidestand may be the best option. The article did warn that they could crimp the frame if misused. The sidestand would be lightly used in my case and I always would start the bike on the center stand anyway. Thanks for all the replies.
 
I tried a bolt on sidestand on my BSA. Absolute waste of cash. My 71 Commando also needed the sidestand lug welded on. Yes engine out of the frame but not that big a job. Better than watching your bike flop over because the cheap Indian made POS bolt on side stand wont stay tight on your frame tube without crushing it. YRMV.
 
FL54 said:
Thanks elefantrider,deets55 and Torontonian. I looked at photos of pre ‘71 frames and saw that they had ears that the pivot bracket bolted to. The article that deets55 provided confirms that I in fact have a ‘71 frame. The upgrade would definitely be worth it if I were doing a restoration. However, that isn’t in the cards and I don’t see how you could do this with the engine in the frame. It appears that a bolt on sidestand may be the best option. The article did warn that they could crimp the frame if misused. The sidestand would be lightly used in my case and I always would start the bike on the center stand anyway. Thanks for all the replies.
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The side prop stand (no matter which year) should never be used when kicking over the engine to start .
Same goes for the centerstand , although less critical .
Get the machine upright , off of either stand .
Should start up ( with procedures correct ) , in one or 2 kicks .
If not , you need to address : why not ? .
Enjoy .
 
Roger that Torotonian. Problem for me is I have a bad right knee and bad left ankle so it’s difficult to steady the bike to start it. Ain’t the golden years grand? I stand on the right side of the bike and kick her with my left foot. Thankfully, she starts in 1 or 2 kicks.
 
I hear all the time that you shouldnt kick start your bike on the side stand.
I guess I have been lucky as I have always done the forbidden since I first got my Commando in 1985, and it has done approx 150,000 miles, including quite a few years as dispatch rider in London for the BBC before news video was sent by interwebs for editing. A lot of starts and almost all on sidestand...
 
johnny Lagdon said:
I hear all the time that you shouldnt kick start your bike on the side stand.
I guess I have been lucky as I have always done the forbidden since I first got my Commando in 1985, and it has done approx 150,000 miles, including quite a few years as dispatch rider in London for the BBC before news video was sent by interwebs for editing. A lot of starts and almost all on sidestand...
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That's a lot of miles of sidestand kicks . My late 70 never failed on the short prop . Seen lots of longer later models that did . Enjoy .
 
FL54 said:
Roger that Torotonian. Problem for me is I have a bad right knee and bad left ankle so it’s difficult to steady the bike to start it. Ain’t the golden years grand? I stand on the right side of the bike and kick her with my left foot. Thankfully, she starts in 1 or 2 kicks.
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Ever had a kickback starting that way? Usually, my engines need more body weight to turn over.
 
I’ve had a couple of kickbacks when I try to start it on the lift but it’s difficult to get a good kick in that situation. I have several 6 volt magneto bikes so there is a technique for maximizing engine rotation for starting. Something one has to live with if you want to ride vintage iron.
 
MikeG said:
I tried a bolt on sidestand on my BSA. Absolute waste of cash. My 71 Commando also needed the sidestand lug welded on. Yes engine out of the frame but not that big a job. Better than watching your bike flop over because the cheap Indian made POS bolt on side stand wont stay tight on your frame tube without crushing it. YRMV.
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If they’re really that bad, maybe I’d be better off forgetting the sidestand all together and just use the center stand all the time.
 

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