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Norton Manxman

Discussion in 'Other Norton Motorcycles' started by skipsoldbikes, Jun 3, 2014.

  1. skipsoldbikes

    skipsoldbikes

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    Hi all,
    I have a friend restoring a Norton Manxman & is in need of the entire exhaust system, which was unique to this machine. Ideally he would like to purchase a set in any condition to restore, or to use as a pattern to make a new system. Or if someone wanted to rent their system for duplication, or would consider having a duplicate made by themselves & sell him the copy?

    Any thoughts, or options considered.

    All the best,

    Skip
     
  2. Rohan

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    You need to contact Anna on the NOC.
    She is always rabbitting on about her Manxman, and how the mufflers were different.
    Sounded like she had a source for them ?

    You don't hear too many stories of folks 'restoring' exhaust systems. ?!
    Some of the stainless merchants could probably roll you new ones ?
     
  3. wilkey113

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    Skip,
    Contact Raysons Exhaust UK. Ben is a good guy, and can make whatever it is you need for old British exhausts.
    Wouldn't mind seeing photos of the Manxman you friend is restoring.

    As a word to the wise, I'd steer clear of Anna J Dixon on the NOC. That is unless you like talking to a complete blabbering idiot.
    Best of luck, the Manxman is a great machine.
    Jeff
     
  4. Rohan

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    Anna does know what she is talking about with the Manxman exhausts though.....
     
  5. wilkey113

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    I'll save everyone some trouble in digging thru any BS with Anna, just to get to the exhaust info:
    Basically, the pipes were standard, but the right hand side, kicked in to clear the tachometer drive cable. You could look at photos online and see what it looked like. Certainly easier to replicate from an original set. I definitely agree with that.
    I'd bet money that Raysons could produce a set quite easily from original patterns, and it's worth dropping him an email You can find him on Facebook and just Google Raysons Exhaust UK.
     
  6. Rohan

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    Anna has one of the few Manxmans WITH the correct exhausts though.
    And has a source for the mufflers (?).

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  7. acotrel

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    If I was restoring a Manxman, I would prefer to keep it as authentic as possible. It only takes one obviously non-original part to make a bike like that look like a bodge job. I sometimes have a look at the bikes that turn up at Phillip Island - not many look completely original and correct, however those that do are a joy to see. It doesn't matter what it is, if it is 100% authentic and original, when I see it I get the nostalgia kick. Even old Japanese two strokes.
    I don't particularly like Velocettes, however about 6 years ago I saw a Thruxton which was perfect in every detail - it was to die for. When I was a kid, you could buy one like that off the shop floor - we had no hope of ever affording one, and still continuing to eat.
     
  8. skipsoldbikes

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    Thanks for the excellent suggestions.
    I have spoken to Anna via email on a number of occasions, she does not currently have a source for the Norton made mufflers used on the Manx, I have found a number of photos & ads showing the system, so it could be made by observing & scaling photos, but an original set as a pattern would be ideal, but there is not much hope of finding that i'm afraid. The exhaust manufactures I have spoken to either want an original to copy, or a blueprint with all the dimensions, neither of which seem to be available at this time.
    We'll keep looking though!

    Skip Brolund
     
  9. Matt Spencer

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  10. Matt Spencer

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    Theres been the odd set of Dommie ones on ebay , two at one stage . Looked like needed rechromeing , but not rotted .
     
  11. Matt Spencer

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  12. skipsoldbikes

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    Thanks Matt, the Manxman mufflers are quite different from the other Norton mufflers (silencers) , as far as I know, the only Norton built mufflers (due to a deadline to export to the USA).
    I have recently purchased a copy of the Cycle World article from March of '62 you have shown, interestingly, that is the 2nd or 3rd issue of Cycleworld as the had just begun publishing in 1962.

    I have a few leads where I may be able to borrow some of the exhust parts in order to have something made, but I am not against restoring an old set & re chroming.

    I seem to me a magnet for the unobtainable parts :) model 77, Nomad, etc.

    Thanks again to everybodys info !
     
  13. annajeannette

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    Hello Now let me make this clear I do read Access Norton And I am a Member of Norton Owners Club , And Has For The Norton Manxman Research Its Was Me that kick all this Off And It was Me that did the Research to and every thing I have put down on the web pages is ether from the NOC own Factory Records or what I have found out my self though other date and found owners of these motorcycle and I happen to own one my self and I just happen to be a ex engineer marine that is I have work on some of the biggest ship afloat and I owned many Nortons in the past 40 years I do own a 1954 model 88 witch i have rebuilt with only the crankshaft farmed out for a regrind minus 10 undersized So for some of you out there to rubbish me when all i try too do is help owners I do not talk gibberish nor is my data wrong its from NOC own Data So if I am wrong than so is the NOC own data Now has for Manxman type silencers, I have found a guy who can make this parts but there not easy too make and that be expensive too , of late I have not been too well and inactive So has do not have the money coming in. has I am not working and on sick benefit for now , I will be taking my own machine too this guy and let him do all the measurements and leave to bike with him so he can get all the fitment right , No company has made these Norton manxman silencer but Bracebridge street them self's back in November 1960 on , So then until a small batch is made until then you all have to witch this space I will let you all know when there up for sale first come first served and they will not come cheap but they will be made for the right quality steel you could have them un-chromed too chrome them your self's or we could have them Chromed by Quality Chrome Kingston upon Hull east Yorkshire top chroming guys you can see there wed site at http://www.qualitychrome.co.uk any member that need some help put it on Access Norton
     
  14. Interbak

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    Hey Skip,

    There was a nice unrestored Manxman at the rally in Ashville last summer. I can't speak to the mufflers as I am not fully up to speed on the fine details of the model, and didn't notice what was on it. I'll try and find some pictures of it, and I might have his contact info.

    B
     
  15. grandpaul

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    Welcome, Anna.

    Thank you for your valuable input as one of only a very few with access to an original Manxman.

    Do not fret over what price the pattern mufflers have to be in order to make it worthwhile. Many of us have been down the road of limited production items and typically sell all that are made from small batches.
     
  16. annajeannette

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    WEll thank you for that after tring too help you thats the thanks you get , thank you jeff

    Now I can tell you all Manxman silencers are not easy to make thats why norton themselves dropped these silencer for standard type has they are more easy to make and more cheaper too so thats why you are having difficulty obtaining any I have contacted every Exhaust maker in the UK too try get a small batch made but i only found one maker that will even look at these silencers everyone else did not want too know,
    and the Norton owners club are only lukewarm in having a batch made , So its down to me now so you will have too wait has I am not that well at the moment yours anna j dixon
     
  17. norton bob

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    What makes the Manxman exhausts difficult appart from the slightly ugly silencers ,is the fact that the big bore headers angle down from inside the exhaust nuts, and there is little room for this,they also have a continuos curve down ( harder than single curves with straight bits) they also kick up under the gearbox ,which gives the nice line, add to this the odd angle to miss the tacho .They need to be a custom job made to fit an actual bike.
     
  18. annajeannette

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    Thank you for Norton Access support I have had in the last month Tom Barber with His Norton Manxman 650 Witch turned out too be the First Norton Manxman to be built I have factory records for 650 Norton Manxman's and parts manual too I would like Tom to get back to me Has I am interested in the Timeline of this motorcycle it is in need of full restoration I have photos he sent me Just sharing this with members
     
  19. dynodave

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    Currently working on a friends Manxman engine. Found it interesting that the two front head bolts that are usually 5/16 studs in the cylinders are in this engine... are "bolts". Never seen that before...
    Also have most of the parts for the intake stud "breather"...original yes but what a joke :?:
    Also my 4 atlas' have on the intake 3 studs and 1 allen bolt yet this Manxman has 2 studs and 2 allen bolts.

    This bike was out of Philadelphia where the movie Bye Bye Birdie was filmed and with British bikes including 2 Manxman in a supporting role. (I've never seen the movie) The owner is trying to verify if this one was one of these two. But he has owned it for so long, the fact trail may have gone cold.
    Hope to have it back on the road by fall.
     
  20. annajeannette

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    Norton Manxman's never had any Allen bolts or Screws fitted too them so its a small modification done by past owner or owners if any one Comes across a Norton Manxman motorcycle Please let me know thank you members