No more FullAuto heads?

jeffdavison · Jul 30, 2018

hmm.... looks interesting.... 3D printing Aluminum? https://i.materialise.com/en/3d-printing-materials/aluminum

74ok · Aug 2, 2018

https://www.accessnorton.com/NortonCommando/fullauto-technologies-heads.13028/#post-182561

comnoz said:
It's been estimated that 40 to 50 percent of the RH4 850 heads were cracked at the intake guide hole from the factory. I don't know how true this is but I have a shelf full of them that are difficult if not impossible to fix. Jim

Madnorton · Aug 2, 2018

Cracked heads, send them to me - I'll have them.

worntorn · Aug 2, 2018

Fullauto said:
End the speculation, buy all of my tooling , machining programs, and intellectual property. Whilst not officially on the market, I'm dealing with various would be buyers at the moment, so, when I sort out who's serious and who's not, it will be advertised widely for sale. All the hard work is done. Not for the faint of heart, but a good solid business.

I would write the cheque immediately, only problem is I recall you offering this information not long ago-

Fullauto said-
"If I really, really hated someone, I'd sell them my business! "

Fullauto · Aug 2, 2018

worntorn said:
I would write the cheque immediately, only problem is I recall you offering this information not long ago-

Fullauto said-
"If I really, really hated someone, I'd sell them my business! "

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

acotrel · Aug 2, 2018

Fullauto is a phenomenon. He is actually surviving while supplying parts for old Commandos. I've had friends making aftermarket parts for relatively modern bikes who have gone under. Ken must have a lot of patience. He showed me one of his heads - 'quality does not cost - it pays' - most impressive !

Guido · Aug 2, 2018

Can these heads be made from billet? I haven't a clue, just asking.

Fullauto · Aug 3, 2018

Guido said:
Can these heads be made from billet? I haven't a clue, just asking.

Too much internal detail. You also can't use investment casting. You are stuck with sand casting.

SteveA · Aug 3, 2018

I talked to a gearbox specialist about AMC style gearboxes for racing a few years ago.

They had an approach based on machining sections from billet and bonding. What we talked about wasn't the integrity, which had been proved elsewhere, but more if they could be accepted in vintage/classic racing. The idea was to reduce set up cost compared to developing cast cases. In the end they didn't go ahead, I think they had plenty of other things to keep them busy rather than compete head on with TTi.

However, I suspect the integrity of the bonding might be under greater stress with the heat generated in a cylinder head!

And the concours market and maybe race eligibility could still limit the market.

oldmikew · Aug 4, 2018

SteveA said:
I talked to a gearbox specialist about AMC style gearboxes for racing a few years ago.

They had an approach based on machining sections from billet and bonding. What we talked about wasn't the integrity, which had been proved elsewhere, but more if they could be accepted in vintage/classic racing. The idea was to reduce set up cost compared to developing cast cases. In the end they didn't go ahead, I think they had plenty of other things to keep them busy rather than compete head on with TTi.

However, I suspect the integrity of the bonding might be under greater stress with the heat generated in a cylinder head!

And the concours market and maybe race eligibility could still limit the market.

Yes!

jimbo · Aug 13, 2018

nortonspeed said:
Knut you lost me there, I am talking about availability of a Commando head not about cheap fixes. A Commando head is usually very well rebuildable to new (or even better with bronze exhaust threads). By the way I am still using my 45 year old original ‘rotten swiss cheese’ Commando head.

Ken a quick search on the net: fullauto heads are still offered by Andover Norton and Holland Norton Works.

better hurry!

https://andover-norton.co.uk/en/shop-details/16161/cylinder-head-850-fullauto-06-4038-

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NORTON-850...bullet+-grips+-boot+-goggle&_sacat=6000&rt=nc

Guido · Aug 18, 2018

I saw that one on eBay. It's appalling. I thought $2500.00 was a bit much.

rvich · Aug 18, 2018

Having the last known Fullauto Head...priceless.

Kvinnhering · Aug 18, 2018

And the last nr. are??

madass140 · Aug 18, 2018

rvich said:
Having the last known Fullauto Head...priceless.

considering thats number 175 head, I doubt thats the last known head

CanukNortonNut · Aug 18, 2018

worntorn said:
I would write the cheque immediately, only problem is I recall you offering this information not long ago-

Fullauto said-
"If I really, really hated someone, I'd sell them my business! "

worntorn,
that's just pride talking. Walk a mile in his shoes.
T

madass140 · Aug 18, 2018

Time Warp said:
That head is #5 off the one I bought so it is probably from the same batch from 2016 ?

mine must be from a later batch, mine is 73 off that one

Madnorton · Aug 23, 2018

Last FA head, I have booked one out as sample here at AN. It will not be sold. Might not be from the latest batch but as soon as it was announced it was put aside so we did not sell them all.

madass140 · Aug 23, 2018

Madnorton said:
Last FA head, I have booked one out as sample here at AN. It will not be sold. Might not be from the latest batch but as soon as it was announced it was put aside so we did not sell them all.

Mine was the last one sold by Fullauto. No 248

swooshdave · Aug 23, 2018

madass140 said:
Mine was the last one sold by Fullauto. No 248

He may have meant it was the last one that AN had.

No need to get into a bragging match as to who has the last head.