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If Norton is claiming a gentleman’s conveyance , then why the chain rear drive? They should have gone the extra mile and offered a belt drive. For goodness sake , that would have been a nice upgrade !
 
TonyA said:
If Norton is claiming a gentleman’s conveyance , then why the chain rear drive? They should have gone the extra mile and offered a belt drive. For goodness sake , that would have been a nice upgrade !
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Tony,
Gentlemen, these no longer exist, it's a old world concept from the classic era.
And on a classic, only a chain would be appropriate.
Too bad the 961 doesn't have a kick starter.:rolleyes:
 
BLIGHTYBRIT/SF said:
& I donated my broken linkage as physical evidence to the quality/design team , along with pictures of my broken balance shaft, clutch springs, decat pipe, & battery box.
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So considering the Old New Norton community helped them to iron out the problems for the New New Norton 961 you could feel a little bit bitter when they won't tell you which parts have been improved and could be fitted to your bike to iron out the faults you told them about.
 
Clive said:
So considering the Old New Norton community helped them to iron out the problems for the New New Norton 961 you could feel a little bit bitter when they won't tell you which parts have been improved and could be fitted to your bike to iron out the faults you told them about.
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That’s a positive way of looking at it Clive.

But I do wonder if that positivity will remain when someone has dropped £500+ on a new clutch only to find it doesn’t fit. Especially if they’re in US or Oz and have waited 6 months and paid loads in shipping and import fees.

I guarantee there’ll be posts about ‘I bought xxx and it doesn’t fit and Norton won’t refund me…’ etc.

If Norton know which parts they’ve changed, then they should know which of those changes will / will not cross over.
 
Fast Eddie said:
That’s a positive way of looking at it Clive.

But I do wonder if that positivity will remain when someone has dropped £500+ on a new clutch only to find it doesn’t fit. Especially if they’re in US or Oz and have waited 6 months and paid loads in shipping and import fees.

I guarantee there’ll be posts about ‘I bought xxx and it doesn’t fit and Norton won’t refund me…’ etc.

If Norton know which parts they’ve changed, then they should know which of those changes will / will not cross over.
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Agreed FE and I hope that when ‘push comes to shove’ at the time of purchase, when a Donnington Norton (see what I did there) owner requests a part/assembly and asks the direct question “will this fit“, that information will be forthcoming. We certainly have enough info to know when to ask the question. I think time will tell, especially when the likes of Stu B, Ollie T and CG (eventually) get hold of them, all changes will become apparent.
 
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BritTwit said:
Exactly, so no reason for them to be evasive about the matter.
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Once again I sent them a private message on Instagram and once again crickets. They read the text but refuse to answer.

Why do I feel like I’m watching Ferris Bueller.
 

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Voodooo said:
Once again I sent them a private message on Instagram and once again crickets. They read the text but refuse to answer.

Why do I feel like I’m watching Ferris Bueller.
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The information may not be forthcoming in what we see as an acceptable time frame, but I think we will eventually hear which parts fit Donnington 961s. If there are such 961 parts, Norton stand to make additional money servicing the needs of legacy 961 owners.

Stay tuned.
 
Fast Eddie said:
But I do wonder if that positivity will remain when someone has dropped £500+ on a new clutch only to find it doesn’t fit. Especially if they’re in US or Oz and have waited 6 months and paid loads in shipping and import fees.
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I wish it was only 500 pounds !
 
BritTwit said:
The information may not be forthcoming in what we see as an acceptable time frame, but I think we will eventually hear which parts fit Donnington 961s. If there are such 961 parts, Norton stand to make additional money servicing the needs of legacy 961 owners.

Stay tuned.
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What would be great is if Norton would offer a crate engine so to speak . Even if it is just stock performnce level. This would be a good way to get all of the powerplant improvements with one swap. I know it won't be cheap but much less than a whole bike ? They said something about 7deg of cylinder cant , but looks the same to me . Anybody read/hear that also ?
 
TonyA said:
What would be great is if Norton would offer a crate engine so to speak . Even if it is just stock performnce level. This would be a good way to get all of the powerplant improvements with one swap. I know it won't be cheap but much less than a whole bike ? They said something about 7deg of cylinder cant , but looks the same to me . Anybody read/hear that also ?
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I did see that 7 Degree in the text, but couldn't make sense of it. 7 degree additional cant?
I thought the engine originally had a 15 degree cant?
Would that mean the NEW 961 has 22 degree cant now?
Doesn't appear any different from the legacy 961.

Having a crate motor option would be great for those who could afford it.
Would the crate engine come with new throttle bodies, then will it work with the old legacy ECU?
If it doesn't come with TBs will the old TB/IAC work properly on the new motor?
Some things to ponder maybe.
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Agreed FE and I hope that when ‘push comes to shove’ at the time of purchase, when a Donnington Norton (see what I did there) owner requests a part/assembly and asks the direct question “will this fit“, that information will be forthcoming. We certainly have enough info to know when to ask the question. I think time will tell, especially when the likes of Stu B, Ollie T and CG (eventually) get hold of them, all changes will become apparent.
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Yeah I saw what you did there...very subtle.... you spelt Donington incorrectly to match the spelling mistake on the back of the service books 👀🧐😂
 
I have already enquired about a complete replacement engine but as the bikes are currently only approved for the UK, they told me they cannot provide one :(
 
cliffa said:
I have already enquired about a complete replacement engine but as the bikes are currently only approved for the UK, they told me they cannot provide one :(
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How about if you buy the engine as a "display" for your living room.
But afterwards, when you receive it, you decide to put it into the frame.:p
 
cliffa said:
I have already enquired about a complete replacement engine but as the bikes are currently only approved for the UK, they told me they cannot provide one :(
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Sounds the same as trying to get any parts.
Next it’ll be then saying the motor mount locations have been altered and won’t fit our bikes.
 
cliffa said:
I have already enquired about a complete replacement engine but as the bikes are currently only approved for the UK, they told me they cannot provide one :(
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I am in the UK and was told they hadn't planned to sell complete engine/box units. So not a no but vibe I'm getting is they won't.
 
Gojuu said:
We should start a thread similar to the alternate parts list thread of the known changes, new OEM/suppliers etc and update it as we find more about the bikes.
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Crowdfund a bike purchase, strip it, examine the parts to see what fits then sell it.
 
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