Importing Norton Parts and Customs

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So last week I place an order from England for a few parts, today I get a call from Fed Ex telling me customs won't release the parts until they know what the parts are made of. What type of metal, what the brake parts are, and also they need me to fill out a D.O.T. form. and the supplier needs to fill out a form stating what the parts are made of also. Is this some type of joke????? I tell the Lady they are motorcycle parts and the parts are steel and aluminum, she says one of the parts says fiber washer and I say yes and she goes on to ask what type of fiber is it? I kinda laugh and she dosen't like it. she says you also have a brake hose listed and it needs to be apporved by the D.O.T. and she will e-mail me a form to fill out, Sure enough she did. What the hell is going on here????? :?
 
Good luck, I took me 3 weeks and 200 dollars by the time I got my last package from Maney through customs. Why? because they could.Jim
 
Hemp/Cannabis fibre products, while available world-wide - are still on the banned imports blacklist for U.S.A....
 
I heard the same thing from a friend who bought some wheel bearings from Germany. They wanted him to jump through the same hoops. I've been told that if you get your supplier to send the parts through the regular mail it's easier.
Last summer I bought a custom made sprocket from England without any hassle through the regular mail.


Tim_S
 
Interesting...I ordered the Alton E start kit from Norvil in the UK. I paid the price listed on their site (came to 2250 US as I recall) and it was shipped to TX with no additional fees or delays. Based on how quick it got there, I can't imagine it was subject to any customs scrutiny at all. Perhaps the price included customs though it doesn't mention that and there was no indication on the box of any customs action. So maybe it's a trade agreement thing with the UK?
 
The Brits invented beurocracy. No sex please ,too messy. Thank the gods I'm off to Thailand. Chroming WAY cheaper there BTW., no laws.
 
Torontonian said:
The Brits invented beurocracy. No sex please ,too messy. Thank the gods I'm off to Thailand. Chroming WAY cheaper there BTW., no laws.

I bet the sex is cheaper in Thailand too, although you may want to check the quality beforehand...
 
Hortons Norton said:
So last week I place an order from England for a few parts, today I get a call from Fed Ex telling me customs won't release the parts until they know what the parts are made of. What type of metal, what the brake parts are, and also they need me to fill out a D.O.T. form. and the supplier needs to fill out a form stating what the parts are made of also. Is this some type of joke????? I tell the Lady they are motorcycle parts and the parts are steel and aluminum, she says one of the parts says fiber washer and I say yes and she goes on to ask what type of fiber is it? I kinda laugh and she dosen't like it. she says you also have a brake hose listed and it needs to be apporved by the D.O.T. and she will e-mail me a form to fill out, Sure enough she did. What the hell is going on here????? :?

Don't mess with the custom people. Ask her if it helps that they are vintage parts.
 
Or you could use your new Brit friends on this forum to recieve , then slap on a "gifts" label and send it off. P.S. Asbestos is illegal now in most countrys -perhaps they are looking for old material brake pads ?
 
Thanks guys, I sent off an e-mail back to her and did the best i could to describe the materials. The way she made it sound it was up to the shipper to do this, Maybe an oversite on their part, no big deal at this point but i really need some of these items to keep the rebuild going. I have other things to keep me busy, but if they stick me with fees what was the point of trying to save some money? Sometimes i think the wife is going to snap if i don't stop spending money on these bikes, she said it's me or the bikes, hell i'm going to miss her! :shock:
 
What happens everywhere.
When I buy spare parts in USA, even if they are used, the Italian Customs makes me pay 21% VAT + 7% of Custom on the purchase price plus the cost of shipping!!!!!

Also I always ask sellers to write on the package "Ricambi Usati Per Motocicletta" (means "vintage bike's spare parts") without details of spare parts.


Ciao
 
Hi

I imported a nice cylinder head back to England a few years ago & was asked for 20%vat plus customs charge on the total cost ie part plus postage. I told them that it was a part made in England for a Norton motorbike and was told that if I could prove this they would not charge me as tax would have already been paid! How! the company was long gone! Didnt win because I couldnt win!
Having a gift sent to you from a friend is the best way of getting parts.

Chris
 
Chris said:
Hi

I imported a nice cylinder head back to England a few years ago & was asked for 20%vat plus customs charge on the total cost ie part plus postage. I told them that it was a part made in England for a Norton motorbike and was told that if I could prove this they would not charge me as tax would have already been paid! How! the company was long gone! Didnt win because I couldnt win!
Having a gift sent to you from a friend is the best way of getting parts.

Chris

Did the same this year, with expensive shipping to the UK from Canada, total of parts and shipping plus 3.7% import duty plus 20% import VAT, add fixed charge for processing customs.....I think I paid as much to import this head on top of the price I paid, as I did to buy another head with shipping in the UK! Ask me which is the better one? ....and having one of these second hand heads worked by Steve Maney will attract 20% VAT as well....so why I didn't just put a deposit on a Fullauto head from Mick Hemmings? Oh yeah, I get to pay 20% VAT on that too after Mick has paid the 3.7% import duty which will go into his price

They have a saying here in Italy.....Piove, Governo Ladro!....Piove translates to rain.....Governo should be obvious, Ladro is a thief.......lets just go with Governo Ladro.......
 
I have only bought items from UK or CAN and have never been questioned. It always came in either Royal Mail or Canadian Mail. Don't use Fed Ex or any of the carriers, especially UPS. I did send some rather expensive vacuum tubes US mail to a guy in Italy and since they were insured the price was on the outside. The poor guy had to pay VAT plus import fees like another 20%. He still got a deal, but not what he expected. I think when RGM and Hemmings send stuff it's got papers showing antique motorcycle items.

Dave
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Torontonian said:
The Brits invented beurocracy. No sex please ,too messy. Thank the gods I'm off to Thailand. Chroming WAY cheaper there BTW., no laws.


Other things too.....
 
Here in Aus, GST [=VAT/sales tax] is 10% .
However it is not collected on international/internet/ bought/imported items under $1,000-
Due to the cost of collecting it - having been assessed by the govt - as greater than the net amount collected...
 
From my experience ordering overseas, I make it a point to have the seller, whether be it Andover or Norvil et al., to have it shipped via Royal Mail or equivalent regular ground mail from the country of purchase. Some get caught by customs and tax and duty is applied, others get through the backdoor most likely from the custom officer who hates life that day and could give a lesser...

Honestly, I'm not sure what advantage "Vintage Motorcycle Parts" really gives you when contents are declared prior to shipment. It does not exempt the contents from taxes or duty. So I'm not sure why people stress that point? Perhaps, like some of the responses to this thread indicate, they may be more lenient when it comes to parts which may or may not contain asbestos. I'd be quite surprised if they would even turn a blind eye to such a thing, especially with the proven health research results of asbestos.

One tip I could give is that most custom agencies will not charge tax on orders that are valued at less than $20-$30, so if you are close to this amount, kindly ask the seller to lower the declaration content value to some value within that band. This can also apply to things which may be expensive but to the untrained eye, is something of little value. Most of the custom guards are not privy to any value assessment info so what is wrote on the paper, they do not question. For instance, I purchased some down tubes from overseas at a fairly expensive price as they were quality but not shiny, so I asked the seller to lower the declaration value in order to alleviate some taxation. He agreed no problem.

In conclusion 8) , stay away from the couriers (Fed Ex, UPS, etc) they charge you a ridiculous amount for handling fees as soon as the package goes through customs. Going through them on an international order is probably comparable to getting a zucchini in the hole no vasil!
 
Torontonian said:
The Brits invented beurocracy. No sex please ,too messy. Thank the gods I'm off to Thailand. Chroming WAY cheaper there BTW., no laws.
What do "THE BRITS" have to do wit US customs regulations?
 
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