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xbacksideslider said:
Well . . . . when the "big one" hits and the Electro Magnetic Pulse wipes out my Tri-Spark, I'll reinstall my old AAU, points, and condenser, go the other side of the bike and bodge the edges of my pristine primary timing hole cover, and see if my dusty old timing light still works.
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If this event occurs you will have too many other crisis to deal with, if you survive. I live in the middle of countless companies that make guided weapons, big ordnance and any number of other WMDs or parts for same. My plan is to purchase, steal if I have to, a bottle of some nice aged rye whiskey, and go "tail gate" in one of the above referenced company parking lots, wonder if I have done what I was put on this earth for and wait for the fireworks. What a rush!

Your Zenner and rectifier will get knocked out with the EMP even a "modest" fissionable weapon will produce, so keep your battery charged, your motorcycle won't be the only thing running "total loss".

To the OP: The Pazon Sure-Fire and Smart-Fire are the least expensive units I have seen, and appear to have the longest warrantee at 7.5 years. The down side is the warrantee is serviced through the manufacturer in New Zealand, not an issue if you live in either NZ or AU, but a good 2 weeks for us Yanks. Just buy 2 units...

Sorry guys, no free lunch in the EI ball game.
 
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RoadScholar said:
If this event occurs you will have too many other crisis to deal with, if you survive. I live in the middle of countless companies that make guided weapons, big ordnance and any number of other WMDs or parts for same. My plan is to purchase, steal if I have to, a bottle of some nice aged rye whiskey, and go "tail gate" in one of the above referenced company parking lots, wonder if I have done what I was put on this earth for and wait for the fireworks. What a rush!

Your Zenner and rectifier will get knocked out with the EMP even a "modest" fissionable weapon will produce, so keep your battery charged, your motorcycle won't be the only thing running "total loss".

To the OP: The Pazon Sure-Fire and Smart-Fire are the least expensive units I have seen, and appear to have the longest warrantee at 7.5 years. The down side is the warrantee is serviced through the manufacturer in New Zealand, not an issue if you live in either NZ or AU, but a good 2 weeks for us Yanks. Just buy 2 units...

Sorry guys, no free lunch in the EI ball game.
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My understanding was that coils and condenser would also be rendered useless ?
 
Thanks for the good information......a local riding friend who owns a dozen or so Brit bikes, recommended the Pazon also.....so thats probably what Ill do and then wrap my helmet in tin foil.....you know, for the EMP....
 
MexicoMike said:
I've been told that vacuum tubes (valves) WILL survive! ;)
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Great, The only electronic thing that I own that will the work is my old tube Marantz Amp. Of coarse there will be no way to power it as our whole grid will be down and neither of my Honda gen sets will work. I guess that it's back to hunting and gathering again. I just spotted a small herd of Javalinas passing by last night. I probably need to figure out there travel patterns if I want to keep eating well. I'm sure not looking forward to skinning out these stinky beasts.
 
Store all your survival electronics in a steel bin. Seal the edges with aluminum tape and ground it well. According to the “experts” the items will not be damaged. To what end I don’t know. Hopefully it never comes to that.
 
Pazon SureFire. Easy peasy. No problems. Price is right too. You can get 2 of them for the price of one exotic one.
 
Deets55 said:
Exactly

Wow, we took this thread off track didn’t we.
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Not really. If you stick with traditional points all you would have to do to get going again in the event of an EMP is rewind the ignition coils on the side of the road. You could then run constant loss until you got to the nearest shop that is not too hot to rewind your alternator. Solid argument in support of staying the course with points.
 
EMP... Nothing that a tin foil beanie can't prevent. btw I've been happy with the Pazon SureFire
 
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Not well known in the USA but I,m still using my old Mr Reliable Boyer Micro Power with its own twin lead coil. (same 0.6ohm type as Pazon Smartfire)
Has the more modern advance curve so doesn,t kick back on e start.
Has outlived two Pazon Smartfires and a TriSpark, with great customer service and spares availability.
Will be left on bike as backup when replacement TriSpark refitted.
 
KiwiNeill said:
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Not well known in the USA but I,m still using my old Mr Reliable Boyer Micro Power with its own twin lead coil. (same 0.6ohm type as Pazon Smartfire)
Has the more modern advance curve so doesn,t kick back on e start.
Has outlived two Pazon Smartfires and a TriSpark, with great customer service and spares availability.
Will be left on bike as backup when replacement TriSpark refitted.
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If you find the Boyer so good, then why are you going to refit a TriSpark?
 
A diesel Commando, with mechanical injection, would solve all the issues associated with spark ignition; combine that with a generator (not alternator) and a simple contact type regulator; all features from the past, ala John Deere, Caterpillar and the like.

I difficult implementation, and the Norton engine might or might not stand the much higher CR, but wouldn't need to rev to develop motive torque.

Years ago there was a KLR 650 converted, for evaluation, to diesel for the US Marines; I never followed up to see if this ever panned out; the performance numbers were pretty good IIRC. 96 MPG and about 90 MPH on top. https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/automobiles/24KAWASAKI.html

Anyone ever heard of any British motorcycle built for, or converted to diesel?

EI for the Commando, is a smart move, in any event.
 
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Trispark has a quicker advance curve, easy accurate setup and more stable idle. I set mine with the LED from the Mk3 28°crank timing slot and it was spot on when strobed.
Boyer needed a little advancing from the initial setting and has occasional idle variation but both give excellent power and economy.

Trispark has a slightly better pickup but no denying the old Brit has had better long term reliability over more miles, hence the backup option but hopefully the replacement Trispark will be trouble free.
Trispark uses a different 3.0 Ω mini twin plug coil so both coils need mounting on the bike.
Boyer 0.6 Ω coil sits behind the K&N filter with no ill effects, Trispark coil in the usual place behind headstock.
Both companies (and Pazon) have excellent customer service in my experience.
 
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On the EMP question, the obvious solution is to have a complete spare electrical system stored in a faraday cage.
 
"Trispark uses a different 3.0 Ω mini twin plug coil so both coils need mounting on the bike."

FWIW, my Trispark, fitted in '08, has always used the OEM-style dual coils with no issue at all. The instructions that came with it showed the wiring change to do that (in series, as I recall but I might be recalling wrong). Maybe the current instructions don't cover that and/or they've changed something in the TS that requires a different coil? I like the look of the stock coils and would go back to points rather than remove those coils.
 
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