Foxy said:Gday Nortonspeed, the valves so far produced have aesthetic problems for me! Too agricultural looking, I want something more fitting for the space shuttle. So this is what Im thinking of using, it ticks all the boxes for me except the price but you have to pay for quality! $348 us http://pingelonline.com/guzzlerELECTROFLO.htm
Ok its designed for fuel but Ive communicated with Pingel staff and they were quite confident in its ability to handle this application, having to put up with hot oil and flow requirements.
In comparison to the AMR mod, Im assuming it would be around the same price?
Foxy
Foxy,Foxy said:Ok its designed for fuel but Ive communicated with Pingel staff and they were quite confident in its ability to handle this application, having to put up with hot oil and flow requirements.
In comparison to the AMR mod, Im assuming it would be around the same price?
Foxy
rpatton said:Foxy,
According to Fred, the MkIII cover with the checkvalve can be used on the earlier motors, if you can find one for a reasonable price then just do a transplant.
http://www.oldbritts.com/11_066161.html
Nortonspeed,nortonspeed said:The worst type automatic anti drain valve I have experienced myself was the RGM type: full alloy body, steel ball and pretty tight spring causing an oil pressure drop of approx 10% throughout the rev range compared to using no valve at all. Best type (so far) the CNW valve: alloy sides with transparent centre part, synthetic material ball and much less tight spring (which I am still using now) causing oil pressure loss close to nothing. I learned the CNW valve also is produced with a steel ball (accompanying a tighter spring?) I never tested one of those which possibly will cause some oil pressure drop also due to a tighter spring to keep the heavier steel ball seated. Also the 3 piece CNW type valve has to be lockwired as it tends to split.
Maybe the solution to the ultimate automatic valve is an one piece body and a spring just strong enough to keep a very light ball seated preventing oil to flow.
Your thoughts please :idea:
Russ:
I used a manual valve for 3 years in combination with a disclock-reminder-wire (one end on my trottle grip and the other end on the kickstarter) to be sure NOT to forget to open the manual valve. The inevitable happened, don't ask me about the circumstances but I did forget to open the valve finally. I rode for 4 miles only to find out there was zero pressure on my gauge. Immediately I opened the valve and was extremely lucky no harm was done inside my engine. From that moment I fitted an automatic anti drain valve and got rid of the manual one.
bill said:the MK3 cover is NOT a bolt on job. the oil pump outlet and seal is different and the piston has a history of sticking. when it sticks it will still allow it to wet sump BUT all you need to do is increase the clearance as it seals on the pump outlet and not in the bore.
http://www.oldbritts.com/11_066161.html
nortonspeed said:[quote="commando6868Nortonspeed,
I was checking the CNW web site, they don't have the anti drain valve listed. Do you have a photo/price? I guess a call or e-mail to them would find out if they are selling them. I hear they have a simplified wiring harness too, anyone install one yet?
MF
Yes, thanks. Time to get the credit card out.commando6868 said:nortonspeed said:[quote="commando6868Nortonspeed,
I was checking the CNW web site, they don't have the anti drain valve listed. Do you have a photo/price? I guess a call or e-mail to them would find out if they are selling them. I hear they have a simplified wiring harness too, anyone install one yet?
MF
MF here you go:
http://www.coloradonortonworks.com/catalog/engine.asp
http://www.hollandnortonworks.eu/?lang=EN&page=10
commando6868 said:Just checked, they don't sell them anymore.
MF
aceaceca said:I do not run any devices on my 71 Commando and am generally of the belief that it is not a problem. However, it is definitely harder to kick over while "sumped". I actually changed over to modern push button bike because I am older now and need more creature comforts. I swore I would never own a bike that was you did not tickle and kick. Aging sucks. Anyway, if I were to put a device to cope with sumping I think I would use the simple in line ball valve with a buzzer component ala Jay Leno. Alternatively, I have eyed these pumps for some time and thought they would be excellent to mount in the void on the Commando motor that looks like a place for a starter motor. Push a button and whir the oil back to the tank. It would look and sound cool. Take a look and consider this if you a die hard anti sumper.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-Scaven ... SS:US:1123