Do Commando scare you?
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If you figure I had a 70 Commando and it was one of the quickest bikes you could buy, I reckoned I was top of the heap. I'm not sure a 250 Ninja would not dust it off these days, fast is a state of mind. I surely went faster than I ever had or will again.
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Nice open inviting vista drive there. Savored the views and
the raves. I can see how it could be a Fast Ride w/o much
strain. Curvy enough in places to test and please anyone.
In my area a similar ride is HWY 16. Goes to nowhere but
runs the high side of Ozarks Plateau and is mostly series
of sweepers you don't have to slow for so dream like
flowing along. I think they call it the Moonshine Run.
Can't find good URL for 16, but here's similar in curves
and vistas http://www.motorcycleroads.com/routes/S ... AR_2.shtml
I'm kinda afraid of the hi speeds long opens allow, only tempting
to me if ideal state of conditions. Don't take too many WOT till
she won't go faster with face plate on clock faces to say ya have.
That just don't provide the G Forces I'm most addicted too.
Only one tool can deliver the goods for me.
This public fantasy riding with the best moderns in wonderful
places is exactly why I'm such a missionary for others to
try as many links and locations as possible and report back.
1. the ozarkmoonshine run 110 miles with 662 curves about 3 hrs & 45 minutes.
2. bull shoals dam route 100 miles with 326 curves about 3 hours.
3. peel's ferry 110 miles with 378 curves about 3 hours & 30 minutes.
4. mountain view run 168 miles with 602 curves about 4 hours & 30 minutes.
5. jasper disaster 56 miles with 316 curves about 2 hours
6. eureka springs backroads route 132 miles with 571 curves about 4hours & 50
minutes.
7. push mountain 146 miles and 342 curves dosn't say how long a ride but i would
say aleast 3-4 hours.
http://tourdehills.com/jd.html
#5, Japser Diaster is worth its own subject line. Series of 10 mph
marked switch backs, so the best deadliest test of Peel. 15 miles
form my office. Can ride hard all day new paths and end up
close to home. Every week biker lives are lost out here.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2040930 ... 1179aNpLuf
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2232760 ... 1179MwdJyW
hobot
the raves. I can see how it could be a Fast Ride w/o much
strain. Curvy enough in places to test and please anyone.
In my area a similar ride is HWY 16. Goes to nowhere but
runs the high side of Ozarks Plateau and is mostly series
of sweepers you don't have to slow for so dream like
flowing along. I think they call it the Moonshine Run.
Can't find good URL for 16, but here's similar in curves
and vistas http://www.motorcycleroads.com/routes/S ... AR_2.shtml
I'm kinda afraid of the hi speeds long opens allow, only tempting
to me if ideal state of conditions. Don't take too many WOT till
she won't go faster with face plate on clock faces to say ya have.
That just don't provide the G Forces I'm most addicted too.
Only one tool can deliver the goods for me.
This public fantasy riding with the best moderns in wonderful
places is exactly why I'm such a missionary for others to
try as many links and locations as possible and report back.
1. the ozarkmoonshine run 110 miles with 662 curves about 3 hrs & 45 minutes.
2. bull shoals dam route 100 miles with 326 curves about 3 hours.
3. peel's ferry 110 miles with 378 curves about 3 hours & 30 minutes.
4. mountain view run 168 miles with 602 curves about 4 hours & 30 minutes.
5. jasper disaster 56 miles with 316 curves about 2 hours
6. eureka springs backroads route 132 miles with 571 curves about 4hours & 50
minutes.
7. push mountain 146 miles and 342 curves dosn't say how long a ride but i would
say aleast 3-4 hours.
http://tourdehills.com/jd.html
#5, Japser Diaster is worth its own subject line. Series of 10 mph
marked switch backs, so the best deadliest test of Peel. 15 miles
form my office. Can ride hard all day new paths and end up
close to home. Every week biker lives are lost out here.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2040930 ... 1179aNpLuf
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2232760 ... 1179MwdJyW
hobot
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As I get older and slower so do the bikes, the last Modern bike that I had was a 1995 Triumph Speed Triple and it was too fast for me. As of now I have:
1936 BMW R2, 6 1/4 screaming HP.
1952 Triumph TRW, 26 ground pounding HP.
The reason (one of the reasons anyway) for the Commando was to have a bike with relatively modern performance, but my "setting the world on fire" days are over!
Unclviny
1936 BMW R2, 6 1/4 screaming HP.
1952 Triumph TRW, 26 ground pounding HP.
The reason (one of the reasons anyway) for the Commando was to have a bike with relatively modern performance, but my "setting the world on fire" days are over!
Unclviny
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Well beside installing what I think is the final solution to
Commando surpremo handling and comfort, I also thing I've
found the fountain of youth in freeing up the ole brain stem
from mechanical and chemical factors, so raring to go
with some wisdom's gained the hard way I barely survived.
I never ever ride into a scary states but fate throws em at
ya no matter what once on two wheels. Lost another Commando
buddy a few days ago, Chuck Shulzt - returning form work
a woman hit him, police report said no helmet, head injury
too bad to operate.
Make no mistake about hobot rides, Every One of Them is a Life
and Death risk taking no matter how sedate I take em.
I'm only 58.7 orbits here, but gut is only 4 days old, blood 120 day
old and joint 7-9 months. No more toss turn to sleep, nothing
goes numb or aches, no congestion, no gut upsets, nil brain
fog unless heavy labored or hung over, no old injury reminders,
tree falls, water ski, snow ski, fights, ultra-light crash to 120 mph
Combat drag strip tire fold up, Ninja wheelie on head,
nor deer strikes fracture neck and major joint dislocating fractures.
No medications, no symptoms, no signs, no surgery just
cheap DIY re-growing everything to basic state of bliss.
I'm rather faster than a snake strike again and smarter than a fly
to snatch em on launch, some times.
Only thing I missionary more than a rump rod'd Commando and
flat tire emergency braking practice >
is cervical lordotic ligament stretches with ellipsoidal traction,
plus multi minerals and abstinence from refined carbo's.
Ahhhhhh so - lets ride.
Safe Journeys,
jobot
Commando surpremo handling and comfort, I also thing I've
found the fountain of youth in freeing up the ole brain stem
from mechanical and chemical factors, so raring to go
with some wisdom's gained the hard way I barely survived.
I never ever ride into a scary states but fate throws em at
ya no matter what once on two wheels. Lost another Commando
buddy a few days ago, Chuck Shulzt - returning form work
a woman hit him, police report said no helmet, head injury
too bad to operate.
Make no mistake about hobot rides, Every One of Them is a Life
and Death risk taking no matter how sedate I take em.
I'm only 58.7 orbits here, but gut is only 4 days old, blood 120 day
old and joint 7-9 months. No more toss turn to sleep, nothing
goes numb or aches, no congestion, no gut upsets, nil brain
fog unless heavy labored or hung over, no old injury reminders,
tree falls, water ski, snow ski, fights, ultra-light crash to 120 mph
Combat drag strip tire fold up, Ninja wheelie on head,
nor deer strikes fracture neck and major joint dislocating fractures.
No medications, no symptoms, no signs, no surgery just
cheap DIY re-growing everything to basic state of bliss.
I'm rather faster than a snake strike again and smarter than a fly
to snatch em on launch, some times.
Only thing I missionary more than a rump rod'd Commando and
flat tire emergency braking practice >
is cervical lordotic ligament stretches with ellipsoidal traction,
plus multi minerals and abstinence from refined carbo's.
Ahhhhhh so - lets ride.
Safe Journeys,
jobot
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I had some gravel and drum brakes thwart my efforts at a corner and send me supermanning it into a cornfield in Indiana.
Another time I let the swing arm get a little loose and had a little scare on the interstate when she started to do the shakes with me between a construction wall and a line of cars too close for comfort in the other lane.
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keep the rubber side down and between the ditches
Another time I let the swing arm get a little loose and had a little scare on the interstate when she started to do the shakes with me between a construction wall and a line of cars too close for comfort in the other lane.
-strong
keep the rubber side down and between the ditches
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Do Commando scare you? Yes. Occassionally get foolishly carried away with pride in the name and reputation of Norton and have put it on the line a little to close for comfort. Its not the bike at fault its me. Only had one ego gratifying moment, that in hindsight could have been an obituary.
Mick
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Being properly prepared (clothed) is mandatory but OTOH, If you believe you will fall down, you will! You do not LOSE control of a motorcycle (or car) you GIVE UP control. And intentionally putting it on the ground, as is sometimes advocated, is always the wrong solution..
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Ok, last few posts cover my experience prior to the rod links,
so easy and eager to get in over a Commando's handling capacity.
I know better now and may be slow than any of you on an untamed
Commando, Because I Really Really Know what their limits are
now and the hints things are about to get too scary to enjoy
any more thrill. Maturity nullify much of the fate that awaits
but never all of it.
Well I'm flatting stating none of these scares applied to a full
rod set Commando and only take a lolly gagging loping ride
to apreciate how jittery clattery jostly the best and smoothest
un tamed Commando is. Plus another wonder is all the various
influences, tire wear profile on road crown, to wind eddies on
fork to tail light and road undulations and chassis reasonance
all resolve into spearated sensable factors not splishing and
splashing together to confuse the real situtation. Yet
its not being absorbed so much at transparently transmitted
thru chassis, uncanny smooth stable monolitic inertia peace.
Be restless, very very restless on what you may be missing out
into your old age boys joys.
hobot
so easy and eager to get in over a Commando's handling capacity.
I know better now and may be slow than any of you on an untamed
Commando, Because I Really Really Know what their limits are
now and the hints things are about to get too scary to enjoy
any more thrill. Maturity nullify much of the fate that awaits
but never all of it.
Well I'm flatting stating none of these scares applied to a full
rod set Commando and only take a lolly gagging loping ride
to apreciate how jittery clattery jostly the best and smoothest
un tamed Commando is. Plus another wonder is all the various
influences, tire wear profile on road crown, to wind eddies on
fork to tail light and road undulations and chassis reasonance
all resolve into spearated sensable factors not splishing and
splashing together to confuse the real situtation. Yet
its not being absorbed so much at transparently transmitted
thru chassis, uncanny smooth stable monolitic inertia peace.
Be restless, very very restless on what you may be missing out
into your old age boys joys.
hobot
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I aways tell new or anyone interested in motorcycling there are three kinds of riders. Going down, gone down and going down again. Scares me that It's been a long time sense I've had an oops! :shock: I have 3 friends that have broken wrists due to cars turning in front of them! :cry:
The older, I get the slower I go! Unless some one passes me! :twisted:
The older, I get the slower I go! Unless some one passes me! :twisted:
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I operate all of my motorcycles with the first law of motorcycle dynamics in mind. That is, that a motorcycle's natural state of rest is on it's side. The corellary is that all forces in a motorcycle's environment will tend to force it to it's natural state of rest.
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Yes sir that is fundamental end state of people as well as cycles.
Vital corollary rule is that mater does not occupy the same space
at same time.
But with the right equipment and intelligent use of counter
forces, one can throw self and bike at the ground hard
as You Can and be forced back up to miss it completely.
Ahhhhh so flinging fine!
I abhor ever being scared riding so that's my basic taboo
to ride around.
hobot
Vital corollary rule is that mater does not occupy the same space
at same time.
But with the right equipment and intelligent use of counter
forces, one can throw self and bike at the ground hard
as You Can and be forced back up to miss it completely.
Ahhhhh so flinging fine!
I abhor ever being scared riding so that's my basic taboo
to ride around.
hobot
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Well I have been forced to learn to fly bikes, though I will
never again do it on purpose on any other bike but Ms Peel
on a race track
as just too fast in public to avoid inevitable collision with
an unseen hazard around each bend or over each crest
and in every dip in the road.
I did not seek out being a hot shot, but leaning to save
self in crisis, some my fault but most thrown at me
by men, animals, nature or mechanical surprises.
There's stories of canyon riding where cyclist leave
the road and ride the banked bluff faces like
the Barrel of Death. I've had to do that on 70-80'
slope when a tractor popped around a rock face
in my own face, with a 3 hay bale spikes lowered
in front - on THE Gravel no way to brake and no where
to go but sideways, as bike got almost horizontal
my head passed so close to tractor tire I could see
it was fairly new not having worn off the injection
nibbins with both me and the farmer screaming
in reflex.
Thank goodness I was on tri-linked Ms Peel as
my SV650 or factory Combat would likely not
handled what it took coming back to rutted
path to do a sharp decreasing radius fling
back inline to go on to work intact.
One thing most don't realize when going from flat to
essentially vertical surface, it slams you like landing
from a jump onto both tires at once. Adrenalin
spikes and nothing to lose is fast but dangerous way
to learn bike extremes.
Flat tires and groomed Gravel are hard teachers.
hobot
hobot
never again do it on purpose on any other bike but Ms Peel
on a race track
as just too fast in public to avoid inevitable collision with
an unseen hazard around each bend or over each crest
and in every dip in the road.
I did not seek out being a hot shot, but leaning to save
self in crisis, some my fault but most thrown at me
by men, animals, nature or mechanical surprises.
There's stories of canyon riding where cyclist leave
the road and ride the banked bluff faces like
the Barrel of Death. I've had to do that on 70-80'
slope when a tractor popped around a rock face
in my own face, with a 3 hay bale spikes lowered
in front - on THE Gravel no way to brake and no where
to go but sideways, as bike got almost horizontal
my head passed so close to tractor tire I could see
it was fairly new not having worn off the injection
nibbins with both me and the farmer screaming
in reflex.
Thank goodness I was on tri-linked Ms Peel as
my SV650 or factory Combat would likely not
handled what it took coming back to rutted
path to do a sharp decreasing radius fling
back inline to go on to work intact.
One thing most don't realize when going from flat to
essentially vertical surface, it slams you like landing
from a jump onto both tires at once. Adrenalin
spikes and nothing to lose is fast but dangerous way
to learn bike extremes.
Flat tires and groomed Gravel are hard teachers.
hobot
hobot
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