Corner Heaven?

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Karakorum Highway - 800 miles long between Pakistan and China
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Only thing is, whichever way you're going, you'd be pleased to leave but not real keen on where you're going to!
 
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I hope it has a gas station every 120 miles, or you're going to have to carry a lot of gas...

(and I'm not sure about that lowest curve on the bottom right, looks faked in CGI)
 
Several times I have mentioned on this forum how my Seeley 850 oversteers when I gas it when halfway through a corner. If you are in a corner and somebody rides past you and makes you look stupid - never believe it is because they are a better rider and try to ride faster. I was watching a video yesterday in which an idiot said more throttle in corners makes bikes tend to run wide. It is not always the case. When you road race, you have not usually experienced the way the other guy's bikes handle. With motorcycles, ego can kill you. For road racing, a neutral-handling bike might be better. With a bike which oversteers, your mind needs to be much further ahead - because when you accelerate, it turns more than you might expect. The adjustment of the rear suspension is important. Most road motorcycles understeer when gassed. There is probably a tendency to believe that a steeper rake makes the steering more direct. The castor effect is not simple. It is what happens when you ride the bike which is important - not the theory.
 
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I gained the impression from other posts that some guys seem to believe that all motorcycles need to be counter-steered to get them to tip into corners. That is not necessarily true. The need to counter-steer is caused by the motorcycle's steering geometry. If it understeers going into a corner, it will tend to run wide if you try to accelerate while in the corner. If it tips in easily, it will usually tend to oversteer in the correct direction as you accelerate out. It is the difference between a road bike and a race bike. I never knew this until I rode a 1961 model Manx Norton. My Triton used to stay almost neutral in corners. My T250 Suzuki handled, but I had laid the shocks down at an angle, which gave it more travel at the rear. The Motocross riders know this stuff - it is where the Yamaha Monoshock came from which was used on the TZ750.
 
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