cNw #101 Norton Commando 850

WOW!....I'm speechless....
Here’s some shots taken before Bill, the original owner, took delivery ( note suspension is lower back then and no electric start, both changed later on)

cNw #101 Norton Commando 850

cNw #101 Norton Commando 850

cNw #101 Norton Commando 850

Here’s the thing. Matt sets his bar SO high that, out of a 1-5 grading he rated this bike’s condition on his site as a 4!
Any bike that’s been used can’t be more than a 2 to him.

Going by his standard I’d call it a 2 1/2 -3 right now.
 
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Here’s some shots taken before Bill, the original owner, took delivery ( note suspension is lower back then and no electric start, both changed later on)

cNw #101 Norton Commando 850

cNw #101 Norton Commando 850

cNw #101 Norton Commando 850

Here’s the thing. Matt sets his bar SO high that, out of a 1-5 grading he rated this bike’s condition on his site as a 4!
Any bike that’s been used can’t be more than a 2 to him.

Going by his standard I’d call it a 2 1/2 -3 right now.

I think he marked it down due to it being so yellow…
 
Well now, given that rating system, it would appear that most of us are riding grade 1 or 0 bikes....
Those are some mighty fine looking bikes there! Curious where you're getting all these photos and history. Very cool to see for sure.
Mine has the same black primary cover that I had powder coated last summer. I too like the contrast. I'll have to take the similar shot you posted and show you guys.
 
For clarity, Matt’s numbering is 1 for perfection down to 5, mine leaving him as a 4.

If like me you like a bit of bike porn, all Matt’s builds are documented on his site
Click on an image to see a HD library of each build. FWIW I’ve no idea what colour/spec I would have plumbed for if I’d have commissioned it, I went through all that with my S1 Elise, spending months deliberating. Would I have gone yellow? Probably not, I would likely have gone safe as I did with the car (titanium in its case but almost went yellow), probably Candy Apple Red or black but now that I have it I wouldn’t swap it for either, looks the bollox!
 
The reality is that of the many bikes that have been return to cNw for Matt to sell on behalf of the owner are graded by Matt as a 2 or at worst a 3. This is reflected in their mileage, mostly sub 1k regardless of age meaning these bikes come from collectors or are show queens. I have no issue with that and indeed it’s the fact that Bill Greene actually rode my bike made it affordable in the first place. Also all the fixings, even hidden ones are individually hand polished stainless steel which most bikes lack so won’t age like stock fixings.

Your bike looks absolutely lovely as do most here on this forum, I see plenty at events that retain original patina and are loved by their owners all the more. Indeed at an event I went to yesterday a friend dismissed an expertly restored 1965 Enfield Interceptor as “too shiny” and walked off! I retorted, “you won’t like my Norton then”😁
 
I suppose you're right Cafe man. To most of us, our bikes are 1s, with room for improvement:) Each bike has its own character, just like their owners.

You're also right on the fasteners that Matt uses. They are quite unique some of them. Like the one for the peashooter mufflers attaching to where the passenger foot pegs used to be. I'll be exchanging my fasteners over time to freshen it up some as well.
 
I suppose you're right Cafe man. To most of us, our bikes are 1s, with room for improvement:) Each bike has its own character, just like their owners.

You're also right on the fasteners that Matt uses. They are quite unique some of them. Like the one for the peashooter mufflers attaching to where the passenger foot pegs used to be. I'll be exchanging my fasteners over time to freshen it up some as well.
Although the details and overall appearance of #101 are something to behold and I love a bit of bling (but not too much) the real reason I bought it over, say a fully restored stock bike is that having no experience with Nortons or Brit bikes at all I was swayed by the mostly hidden mods and features to make ownership less of a ‘70’s experience’ shall we say and that Matt’s reputation was of course the clincher. Only time will tell if I’ve read the tea leaves correctly 🤔
 
Just come back from a ride on the W and thought while I’m all togged up let’s just start the old boy up and heck, maybe try kickstarting it for a laugh; what could possibly go wrong eh?

Reversed him out of the garage and popped him on his centre stand. Off with the saddle to check the oil, yep, I’ve been paying attention to all this YouTube videos ☺️

Fuel on, found compression, switched on ignition, 2 small blips on the throttle and right foot kickdown. Bam! He’s a first kick starter and more to my surprise, so am I, yay😇
 
Well finally, after nearly six months, I’ve got to ride this magnificent machine and that is exactly what it is too; as Clarkson would say, “what a Machiiiiiineee!”.

As of course everyone here knows, this is no mere motorcycle, it’s an event. From the moment you fire him up and then pull away one is totally connected with the most mechanical of experiences; I can image it’s what Spitfire pilots feel, information overload and that’s just the first 500 yrds. F@ck, that was fun!

Gear changes are so positive but without clunk and tbh I soon got into the swing of the right boot change especially up and by the end was happily rev matching on the downshifts. Less successful was I with the rear break; I’m so used to using said in traffic and pulling up to junctions that more than once my muscle memory took over and I changed up, this not helped by the fairly nonexistent gear breaking compared to my W800 but by the end of my 40+ inaugural ride I’d pretty much got the hang of that too.

Only four gears but who cares, you only really need two, third in 30s & 20s and forth the rest; twist and go, and oh boy does he go! Dispatches traffic so well but the real treat is the soundtrack. Holy cow, talk about addictive; an event all of its own, truly epic 😎

I must admit I was expecting a bit more from the brakes. The rear is ok I guess but the peddle has pretty long travel making feathering tricky; I’ll have a look to see if I can set it up better for me. I was also expecting more bite and feel in the Brembo front but hey, it’s about going on a Norton, who wants to bloody stop anyway?

Suspension is fantastic. The progressive fork springs and Hagon shocks with progressive coils inspire great confidence mid bend and although a much firmer set than my W not once was it intrusive, on the contrary, packed full of communication the like of which I’m used to in the Elise; the W isolates you a lot making for a very quite and smooth (smothered?) ride.

Handling, as much as a 40 mile ride can tell me (and a virgin front tyre) was way in excess of expectations no doubt helped by the bike’s physique, small, powerful and light. No nasty surprises at all, quite the opposite, assured and predictable I immediately felt at home.

As I’ve said, this is my very first Norton (any Norton) ride so I’ve no idea how my bike compares to a stock Commando but Matt, if you’re reading this post, you are an absolute genius sir, what an outstanding job. I grinned throughout and more than once shouted with joy and I’ve only done 40 miles. Here’s to the next 10 thousand.😂😂😂
 
I been grinning for over 48 years of riding my Norton, as soon as I fire it up to the end of a day's ride, so get use to that big grin and smile on your dial every time you go out on him.
Don't get too over conference with your gear/brake foot as your brain will forget if you need to stop in an emergency as it with me when I had to retrain my brain for the change of brake and gear, give it a few weeks of steady riding and getting use to the bike and remember the rear brake is really there to slow the back wheel down, the biggest problem with the rear brake is the cable from peddle to brake arm, as for the front brakes the Brembo should and is so much better than what the Norton originally came with, you just need to get use to the feel of them and how they perform.
Just remember all new bikes take time to get the feel and use to them, so give it time before you start to throw it around, but in the long run once you get use to it the bigger that grin will get, enjoy.

Ashley
 
I been grinning for over 48 years of riding my Norton, as soon as I fire it up to the end of a day's ride, so get use to that big grin and smile on your dial every time you go out on him.
Don't get too over conference with your gear/brake foot as your brain will forget if you need to stop in an emergency as it with me when I had to retrain my brain for the change of brake and gear, give it a few weeks of steady riding and getting use to the bike and remember the rear brake is really there to slow the back wheel down, the biggest problem with the rear brake is the cable from peddle to brake arm, as for the front brakes the Brembo should and is so much better than what the Norton originally came with, you just need to get use to the feel of them and how they perform.
Just remember all new bikes take time to get the feel and use to them, so give it time before you start to throw it around, but in the long run once you get use to it the bigger that grin will get, enjoy.

Ashley
All sound advice, thank you. As a matter of course, no matter what bike, car or whatever I always break myself in gently and no take liberties which will only bite me when I least expect it. The post was merely a first impression of what is to be a long term relationship with a wildly different bike to any I’ve ridden to date and I will certain relish the the journey in understanding it.
 
If the bike is an exact replica of one which was perfectly sorted by a good rider, it should be excellent. The rider adapts to the bike.
 
Well you been pretty patient so far so you should be right, it won't take you long to train your brain, I have no problems riding both my bikes from left to right gear changes it just come naturally to me, but the right change is the best.
But with any new bike you will surely make a few slight changes to make the bike fit you.
Now get on your bike and ride the wheels off it, only way to get use to it.

Ashley
 
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