Kick start assembly question

[Mofosheee]

Things came to a screeching halt on the assembly of my gear box. My understanding is that the kick start spring hole should not be at the 12 o'clock position as I have assembled it.
I believe that the spring hole should be about 45 degrees counter clockwise to it's current location.
What assembly mistake did I make here?

Thanks

 

[L.A.B.]

Is the kickstart shaft a new part?

 

[Mofosheee]

Yes
This is a reassembly after being one tooth off on the shift quadrant. It was correct before I took it apart.
Thank you

 

[L.A.B.]

Ok, as I was thinking if it was a new part then it could be an early Dominator shaft but if it was correct when previously fitted I can only think the head of the shaft is the wrong side of the stop plate.

 

[Mofosheee]

It looked correct going together.
Excuse me, I'm not understanding what your statement; "the head of the shaft is the wrong side of the stop plate"
So, apart it comes..............
Thanks Lab

 

[Mofosheee]

Hello
Inner cover removed.
1st picture is of inner cover (inside) with the kickstart mechanism rotated to the stop.
2nd picture is of the spring hole at the 12 0'clock position in the same position as above.
The pin and hole positions of my kickstart match that of the Andover part.
Did I take a perfectly fine gear box apart? What am I missing please?
Thanks again.

 

[L.A.B.]

The first picture looks correct so are you sure it's not an early Dominator shaft?

The current shafts have two holes so they will fit the early and late case and spring.
https://andover-norton.co.uk/en/shop-details-2/16720/kickstart-shaft-bush-04-0477-

 

[Mofosheee]

Positive it's not a Dominator shaft. Yes, mine has two holes.
The one closest to the splines is threaded and I didn't think it for a spring.
All good now.
Thank you again, LAB

 

[mdt-son]

This is one of those secret traps. I was ready to finish my rebuilt trans with a NOS k/s shaft. Thanks to this site I was made aware the shaft I tried to fit is for the pre-62 gearbox (N-type) and it won't fit the post-62 spring arrangement.
Thank you, LAB!

Note to everybody: There was a subtle change of the kickstart shaft. For N-/M-gearboxes, the part number is 04.0114 and for NA - / MA-gearboxes, the part number is 04.0477.

The other NOS k/s shaft I've got came in an AN bag labelled p/n 06-6169, which is the current code. I wonder if someone swapped the genuine part for a pattern part, although it looks exactly as pictured at the AN site. However,
the plunger bore was poorly finished causing the NOS plunger to jam (fixed with light grinding of the bore). Drilling for the NOS pawl pin needs serious reworking too - increasing the bore is a challenging task because of the steel hardness. Even a cobalt bore
doesn't affect this steel, which is hard as diamond. Bore is approx. 0.1mm (0.004") too small. I can envision grinding away for the next week .... Needless to say, I am not happy.

- Knut

 

[BERT]

This is one of those secret traps. I was ready to finish my rebuilt trans with a NOS k/s shaft. Thanks to this site I was made aware the shaft I tried to fit is for the pre-62 gearbox (N-type) and it won't fit the post-62 spring arrangement.
Thank you, LAB!

Note to everybody: There was a subtle change of the kickstart shaft. For N-/M-gearboxes, the part number is 04.0114 and for NA - / MA-gearboxes, the part number is 04.0477.

The other NOS k/s shaft I've got came in an AN bag labelled p/n 06-6169, which is the current code. I wonder if someone swapped the genuine part for a pattern part, although it looks exactly as pictured at the AN site. However,
the plunger bore was poorly finished causing the NOS plunger to jam (fixed with light grinding of the bore). Drilling for the NOS pawl pin needs serious reworking too - increasing the bore is a challenging task because of the steel hardness. Even a cobalt bore
doesn't affect this steel, which is hard as diamond. Bore is approx. 0.1mm (0.004") too small. I can envision grinding away for the next week .... Needless to say, I am not happy.

- Knut

I have opened up holes in hardened steel with a cheap carbide masonry drill bit. If you know how to sharpen a drill bit and use a micrometer, the carbide cutting edges can be modified to size if necessary using a green wheel on a bench grinder

 

[mdt-son]

Thank you for the suggestion, Bert. I will keep this in mind. For my task, I think Dremel #453 will do the trick. It's intended for sharpening teeth of saw chains.

- Knut