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No - I have negative earthRob,
On your bike with the mo.stop,is it running with positive earth?
Thanks,Mike
Cheers
Rob
No - I have negative earthRob,
On your bike with the mo.stop,is it running with positive earth?
Thanks,Mike
Hi I have mo.stop fitted to positive earth with normal bulbs no Problem. Black lead connected to white, red to light green/ brown. Great idea from Ludwig I fitted it for safety when he wrote about it in the previous thread.No - I have negative earth
Cheers
Rob
Thanks for the replies. I love the size of the unit!Hi I have mo.stop fitted to positive earth with normal bulbs no Problem. Black lead connected to white, red to light green/ brown. Great idea from Ludwig I fitted it for safety when he wrote about it in the previous thread.
Martin
Yep - I like that too. Easy to install as well.Thanks for the replies. I love the size of the unit!
Thanks Martin,Hi I have mo.stop fitted to positive earth with normal bulbs no Problem. Black lead connected to white, red to light green/ brown. Great idea from Ludwig I fitted it for safety when he wrote about it in the previous thread.
Martin
Hi Mike, it will work you replace the LED flasher by the the mo.stop with the wires connected like mine. Yes white is power from harness. Motogadget supply a little resistor , which you should wire in series if needed (probably yes for LED)Thanks Martin,
I have all LED bulbs along with an LED flasher running with positive ground.It looks like your white wire is the power coming up from the harness. I wanted to know if my LED bulbs would be a problem.Everything works fine now but I want the self-canceling up-grade.The vender I bought it from says it will not work but I don’t see why.The flasher I have now is polarity sensitive.
Thanks,
Mike
RGM have stainless indicator stems in long and short plus locking nuts in stainless.I have replica's on my A75 Mk2, they are lock tighted and have never shifted, but the quality of the chrome on the stems is very average, so I would like to replace them with stainless if I can track down something suitable?
TornadoI use a Kisan Signal minder on my neg earth bonneville.
Thanks MartinHi Mike, it will work you replace the LED flasher by the the mo.stop with the wires connected like mine. Yes white is power from harness. Motogadget supply a little resistor , which you should wire in series if needed (probably yes for LED)
Martin
Hi Mike no Problem it is just one Resistor you wire in between the red out of mo.stop (on positive earth!) and the light green/ brown which goes to handlebar switch. Fit it with connectors then you can use it or not as required.Thanks Martin
Not trying to be stupid but I am not sure where the resistors get wired into the circuit as I don’t know what wired in series means
Thanks for your help
Mike
To elaborate on this .... I installed a supposedly polarity insensitive LED equivalent to an 1157 incandescent for the stop/tail function. I found the tail lamp had the same brightness as the brake function. The solution was to install a 27 Ohm resistor in series in the tail light feed wire.The resistor is only used for the brake light function, not for blinkers.
Hi Slick yes that is right but I am only writing about replacement of the flasher unit by the mo.stop electronic flasher unit, leaving the indicators as is. It works as designed, also on a positive earth bike and including turn signal warning lamp. I have never had even the most minor issue with it. I wish everything I buy worked as well.To elaborate on this .... I installed a supposedly polarity insensitive LED equivalent to an 1157 incandescent for the stop/tail function. I found the tail lamp had the same brightness as the brake function. The solution was to install a 27 Ohm resistor in series in the tail light feed wire.
Regarding making the blinkers (intended for negative earth) work with positive earth:
One can make any equipment work with either positive or negative earth, if you keep the new equipment electrically isolated from the original circuits. This means the negative and positive wires of the new equipment must connect to the negative and positive battery terminals respectively, and isolation requires no sharing of functions between the new and original circuits.
Trouble occurs when one attempts to share, as in using the original blinker warning light with new blinker equipment having the opposite polarity. Diodes placed in the right place in the circuit will solve this problem. This has been addressed in other threads, so I will not elaborate here.
Slick
I believe mine is the SM-3 (most euro and japanese bikes). As far as I know, they are only different in terms of the connection plug (2 or 3 prong flasher unit replacement) and may be the bits included to mod the turn signal switch on handle bars.Tornado
Have there been any unexpected undesirable features/flaws with the Kisan unit you have been using?
Oh - and is yours the SM-1?
Cheers
Rob
Mine (Signalminder SM-1) has arrived and I'm interested in the real-life workability of:There has been no surprises with my setup. Works reliably (as long as I keep it dry).
I've run Signalminder units on a few bikes now and think they're great. I don't have it wired to do anything other than cancel the indicators. In Oz (where we have yellow indicators) I think having your rear indicators flashing when you brake would just confuse most motorists. I don't think the front indicators would be all that flash (sorry about the pun) as running lights either. A few years ago I ran a little device that made the headlight flicker during the day. The flickering light made it very noticeable, far more so than a light that was just on. I'll have to see if I can find what it was called. It came with a photoelectric sensor so it only worked during the day and gave a normal solid light when it was dark.Mine (SM-1) has arrived and I'm interested in the real-life workability of:
1. using indicators as running lights, and
2. using the rear indicators as additional (flashing) brake lights
My concern is - does it potentially result in a "confused" set of messages to other road users, or is it really clear?
Have you, or anyone else, tried these options and offer advice?
Cheers
Rob
Thanks - I'm only changing from the Motogadget Mo-stop for the feature of Signalminder to pause the countdown while the brakes are on.I've run Signalminder units on a few bikes now and think they're great. I don't have it wired to do anything other than cancel the indicators. In Oz (where we have yellow indicators) I think having your rear indicators flashing when you brake would just confuse most motorists. I don't think the front indicators would be all that flash (sorry about the pun) as running lights either. A few years ago I ran a little device that made the headlight flicker during the day. The flickering light made it very noticeable, far more so than a light that was just on. I'll have to see if I can find what it was called. It came with a photoelectric sensor so it only worked during the day and gave a normal solid light when it was dark.