Winter storage

[john clark]

Hi all, I have a 2018 anniversary Cafe Racer i have been starting it and my other bikes every so often but the C R is now starting idling but runs rough above idle anyone experience this with their bikes,

 

[nopdog]

I’d change the spark plugs to start.

 

[Welshrugby]

needs a run to the super sausage soon

 

[john clark]

needs a run to the super sausage soon

i live 10 minuets from the sausage but it sill closed until further notice.Chriss who owns it has a Suzuki kettle like mine think i will take nopdogs advice and change the plugs and give it a good run cheers Welshrugby

 

[BLIGHTYBRIT/SF]

i live 10 minuets from the sausage but it sill closed until further notice.Chriss who owns it has a Suzuki kettle like mine think i will take nopdogs advice and change the plugs and give it a good run cheers Welshrugby

Suns out tomorrow, I’ll be out on mine first time since November, not started mine either

 

[TonyA]

Hi all, I have a 2018 anniversary Cafe Racer i have been starting it and my other bikes every so often but the C R is now starting idling but runs rough above idle anyone experience this with their bikes,

Hi John , Does it run normally once warmed up ? Yes I have experienced this. Not with the Delta 400 and map , only with the SC Typhoon and 077 map.

 

[john clark]

Hi John , Does it run normally once warmed up ? Yes I have experienced this. Not with the Delta 400 and map , only with the SC Typhoon and 077 map.

Sorry for the delay in answering you mate no it still runs rough after 20 minutes of running

 

[TonyA]

Try some new spark plugs ?

 

[Welshrugby]

7th Feb - lovely weather, cut the grass. No MOT or tax but have inurance. Had to take her for a quick spin. Despite being on trickle charge. wouldn't start, battery drained after about 4 attempts. Next day, full throttle before start procedure, cranked her over, quite smokey from one pipe. Engine management warnig lite on. 3 mile spin and still on.

My Indian, started immediately with no fuss the next day

frustrating, feel like I may get stranded on rideouts

 

[Voodooo]

How old is your gas

 

[Saber]

Sounds like a personal question

 

[Fast Eddie]

So, my 2016 Harley has stood for approx 5 months. It has not been on a charger, or had fuel drained, or ANYTHING, its just sat there... for 5 months.

Took it for a first ride of the season t’other day.

Fired up straight away, idled and ran perfectly from the outset.

I’m not writing this to rub folks noses in it, but to point out that even an antique air cooled design of 1800cc CAN still work!

 

[MAK]

So, my 2016 Harley has stood for approx 5 months. It has not been on a charger, or had fuel drained, or ANYTHING, its just sat there... for 5 months.

Took it for a first ride of the season t’other day.

Fired up straight away, idled and ran perfectly from the outset.

I’m not writing this to rub folks noses in it, but to point out that even an antique air cooled design of 1800cc CAN still work!

Starting to sound like the Four Yorkshire men sketch from Monty Python..
My Norton rotary has stood for a year and a half after being partially stripped down to check a few things.
Battery charged and using one of those hanging up one litre petrol containers it started before I had even had time to get my finger off the button.
Not bragging or owt.

 

[Welshrugby]

I only use shell V power now and the bike has been stading since about end of october. Do you think I need to put some fuel stabiliser in her before the next trip. It needs an MOT now, is the factory doing MOT's now

 

[TonyA]

I only use shell V power now and the bike has been stading since about end of october. Do you think I need to put some fuel stabiliser in her before the next trip. It needs an MOT now, is the factory doing MOT's now

Fuel stabilizer should be put in when gas is fresh.

 

[Fast Eddie]

I only use shell V power now and the bike has been stading since about end of october. Do you think I need to put some fuel stabiliser in her before the next trip. It needs an MOT now, is the factory doing MOT's now

The fuel will be fine. Maybe not perfect for race use, but fine to run ok.

 

[iwilson]

These engines are fatally flawed if they spent extended periods of time at idle. The way the idle system is set up allows one cylinder to steal fuel from the other. This leads to the usual case of misfiring and owners replacing plugs. The plugs are the symptom not the cause. If you start it and ride it you might just encounter the usual slightly erratic idle, if you’re only starting it occasionally for a few minutes (like through winter), you’ll be in a world of hurt. I purchased a programable ECU and removed all the idle air control plumbing a number of years ago. Never had an issue since....

 

[MAK]

These engines are fatally flawed if they spent extended periods of time at idle. The way the idle system is set up allows one cylinder to steal fuel from the other. This leads to the usual case of misfiring and owners replacing plugs. The plugs are the symptom not the cause. If you start it and ride it you might just encounter the usual slightly erratic idle, if you’re only starting it occasionally for a few minutes (like through winter), you’ll be in a world of hurt. I purchased a programable ECU and removed all the idle air control plumbing a number of years ago. Never had an issue since....

Without sounding repetitive..
Could you give a brief summary of what you did to achieve Norton nirvana.
What ECU, how did you remove balance pipe,did you Chuck IAM valve.ETC.
Many thanks.

 

[MAK]

Without sounding repetitive..
Could you give a brief summary of what you did to achieve Norton nirvana.
What ECU, how did you remove balance pipe,did you Chuck IAM valve.ETC.
Many thanks.

Years ago about 2013 a local Norton dealer sent one of their mechanics on an official Norton course.
They were all told that if they had idle problems disconnect IAM ,put a ball bearing up the pipe an adjust throttle stop to give a tickover!
Flawed from the start!

 

[iwilson]

SCS Delta 400. Remove the entire idle air system and stick a plug in the hole of the ‘balance’ pipe to prevent any air or fuel transferring between each cylinder. Adjust the idle air control screw on the butterfly assembly just enough to achieve a stable idle at cold but not enough to give a high idle when warm. Job done!.

End result is an engine capable of starting from cold without any choke or idle control.

800rpm cold, 1,200rpm when warm. Plugs are now three years old and no reason to suggest they need replacing.