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Not sure what you're saying. Is the date for 143958 Mar 71 and does the bike exist today?
Got it !
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I put the number from the OP pics above the one on the plate posted. (They look different to me, font, spacing )
Yes it is a real bike as per the plate data posted.
Add it to your list if you like.
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Thanks, I understand now. Yes, the fonts look different and the date appears wrong - but there are others with the date wrong. His plate does look like it was factory installed to me. Also, sometimes the year is before the month, sometimes is after the month, sometimes the year is 4 characters and sometimes 2. That's why I like to have the dispatch record data wherever possible.
In a perfect world I would be able to collect all that and figure out when things changed, but I can barely get serial numbers and dates. None of it matters to most but it is interesting to some. I get asked a LOT what "model year" people have and start by explaining the Norton really didn't have "model years" and in the case of US owners, that the date on the title has almost nothing to do with when the bike actually left the factory.
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I have yet to participate in a perfect world..maybe the next life.
A fascinating and fun project, the rewards when finished will be with you always.
A fascinating and fun project, the rewards when finished will be with you always.
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Who really knows what was going on back there, it seems even those there were in the dark.
You have both my Mk2a (311032) and the FB now, some people might not like that info in public but I have no problem with it.
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Looks like PY's bike?
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I bought it from Seattle, WA 98115.
It has a spendy invoice (somewhere) from a Brit shop you might have mentioned up that way.
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Sorry I didn't expand the photo. I stand corrected. Carry on and Merry Christmas!
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I used to live in 98115 for a long time as a kid. Pokes or John's Cycle?
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Yes John's British Cycle, the guy I bought it off was L L'Heureux.
The frame number on the OP bike identifies as a 1970 not a 1971.
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Don't know him. Maybe @seattle##gs does?
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Yes, but if the certification label is original, it didn't get to the dealer until at least Mar 71 so it was most likely originally titled/registered as a 71 which is one of the common headaches with Nortons. My best guess is that it was supposed to be an Oct 70 bike but something caused that serial number to be delayed at the factory.
If you sort the Norton Tracker here by engine number, you'll see others throughout with the same issue.
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The free freight ?
I sold an aircraft project to guy near me , it was on a trailer to come here , the owner of the Norton happened to call me about his project about the same time , I bought it , he delivered to the location , my buddy put it on the same teailer .
it took awhile to sort out border crossing because of the shut down
it was towed to the border , hired a tow truck to tow across the bridge and meet new owner on other side.
the handoff went smooth , then it was towed to Minnesota and sat for two months. Then a guy was coming here and loaded project on his pick up and dropped it to me .
worked out fine , just had to be patient and wait it out.
while waiting I ordered in everything I could think of to rebuild this.
I sold an aircraft project to guy near me , it was on a trailer to come here , the owner of the Norton happened to call me about his project about the same time , I bought it , he delivered to the location , my buddy put it on the same teailer .
it took awhile to sort out border crossing because of the shut down
it was towed to the border , hired a tow truck to tow across the bridge and meet new owner on other side.
the handoff went smooth , then it was towed to Minnesota and sat for two months. Then a guy was coming here and loaded project on his pick up and dropped it to me .
worked out fine , just had to be patient and wait it out.
while waiting I ordered in everything I could think of to rebuild this.
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It is the origional cert label . Numbers match drive components .
it Is interesting know the build details of the origional build but not really important to me for originality .
this will not be built back to origional.
I am going to build it the way I want it . I will ride this one for awhile and then give it away.
as long as I get it thru DMV with a title , I am fine .
I have everything they require except a search for liens in Ontario Canada .
will figure out how to get this done and get it titled here .
I think it is easier with old bikes as some places just don’t keep old records .
if I remember right , in the old days they wrote things on paper .
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What or where is the Norton Tracker ?
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The tracker will tell you little in this respect (Click on the link at the bottom of the post)
It matters little but a 140xxx bike is a Mk11 750 (wait for there were no Mk's for 750's)
A Mk111 750 (as I have) started in the 141xxx numbers.
They were building both Mk11 (associated with 1970) and Mk111 750's in March 1971 is not going to happen.
Bikes were not exported from the UK with blank date stamp boxes so US dealers could stamp them as they pleased as seems to be suggested.
Nice project to keep you busy in 2021.
It matters little but a 140xxx bike is a Mk11 750 (wait for there were no Mk's for 750's)
A Mk111 750 (as I have) started in the 141xxx numbers.
They were building both Mk11 (associated with 1970) and Mk111 750's in March 1971 is not going to happen.
Bikes were not exported from the UK with blank date stamp boxes so US dealers could stamp them as they pleased as seems to be suggested.
Nice project to keep you busy in 2021.
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