Which shock absorbers?

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Women are entirely logical. It is just a different logic than a man's. Same as trying to argue religion using scientific logic.
Apples and oranges.
After all, we are bikers who drive old relics. Modernistas are entirely puzzled by any of our concerns.
 
olympus said:
My wife is apparently
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Fast Eddie said:
It’s beyond the laws of physics to expect them to be perfect at everything !
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A case for the phrase: Perfect imperfections, from the song "All of Me" by John Legend

A prophetic quote that, fortunately, does not apply to Norton riders:

The Dalai Lama, was asked what surprised him most about humanity, he said:

“Man.
Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present;
the result being that he does not live in the present or the future;
he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived.”

Current spring/damper offerings will not cover all road conditions at all speeds the rider may choose to challenge, yet. The better suspension components tend to have greater bandwidth and a broader "sweet-spot". Public roads have an incredible range of conditions, racetracks are much more predictable, but require a lot more attention to spring/damping rates to be competitive.

Setting up a suspension system is a compromise, like most of life's offerings, shoot for the middle, but be aware and prepared for the edges; from the prospective of suspension components you do get what you pay for, in the majority of cases.

Best.
 
Ikon only allow adjustment of the rebound damping, to change the compression damping you need to change the oil viscosity.
 
kommando said:
Ikon only allow adjustment of the rebound damping, to change the compression damping you need to change the oil viscosity.
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Modern technology must be good for something. Why use a pen and paper when you can use a computer ? You can probably fit shocks which have piggy-back reservoirs, but would they suit the character of your bike. Ask yourself why you own an old Norton.
 
When I first raced with Koni shocks, I did not even know how to set the rebound adjustment. I raced with the rear wheel jumping and thought the problem was the front forks.
 
Peter R said:
I have Koni's they perform better than the originals . However, I don't like the look of the black springs.
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I love mine, had them forever and I have adjusted the damping one click , after I thought they had worn. Painted my springs blue( it was a thing I went through back when)

Which shock absorbers?
 
RoadScholar said:
A case for the phrase: Perfect imperfections, from the song "All of Me" by John Legend

A prophetic quote that, fortunately, does not apply to Norton riders:

The Dalai Lama, was asked what surprised him most about humanity, he said:

“Man.
Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present;
the result being that he does not live in the present or the future;
he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived.”

Current spring/damper offerings will not cover all road conditions at all speeds the rider may choose to challenge, yet. The better suspension components tend to have greater bandwidth and a broader "sweet-spot". Public roads have an incredible range of conditions, racetracks are much more predictable, but require a lot more attention to spring/damping rates to be competitive.

Setting up a suspension system is a compromise, like most of life's offerings, shoot for the middle, but be aware and prepared for the edges; from the prospective of suspension components you do get what you pay for, in the majority of cases.

Best.
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So says someone who doesn't have to work for a living to put a roof over his head and food on the table - but I like the way he thinks.
 
Bernhard said:
So says someone who doesn't have to work for a living to put a roof over his head and food on the table - but I like the way he thinks.
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Indeed. It’s very easy to sit and pontificate when that’s all you have to do. All day, every day !
 
kommando said:
Have a look at NJB's, based on the original Girlings but updated by an ex Girling employee.

http://www.njbshocks.co.uk/

He will give you the springs you want, I went for a lighter spring rate but using dual springs for a progressive rate.
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You won't beat NJB at the price!

I was told by a guy who knows Norman at NJB that he buys parts from Hagon and makes the shocks including welding and assembly!

I have raced with them and have a set on a current build. I sould expect to replace them with something better when sorting the bike!

Something better would be Maxton as I have on my Rickman or Falcon which have a good rep though I have never tried them.

I am using Hagon on another bike currrently in modification from monoshock to twin shock, and I expect them to be fine!
 
RoadScholar said:
A case for the phrase: Perfect imperfections, from the song "All of Me" by John Legend


Setting up a suspension system is a compromise, like most of life's offerings, shoot for the middle, but be aware and prepared for the edges; from the prospective of suspension components you do get what you pay for, in the majority of cases.

Best.
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As a young man I was lucky enough to experience suspension professionals at work setting up motocross bikes from the track side. And believe me it is a black art to get perfect.
Dave
 
My set from NJB arrived at early-o-clock this morning. I’ll fit them when my stainless bolts turn up. They look very close to the originals which is a good start. I’ll report on how they work in about 2 years time, if I can still get my leg over
 
Frankie17 said:
it will be interesting what the new Girling range performs like when it arrives later this year
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Who owns the Girling brand for motorcycle parts today?

I bought an unbranded AP Lockheed caliper copy last year. From various sources I heard they were commissioned by Wassell.

Recently I noticed the seller I bought from has the same caliper now branded Girling and £15 more expensive!
 
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SteveA said:
Who owns the Girling brand for motorcycle parts today?

I bought an unbranded AP Lockheed caliper copy last year. From various sources I heard they were commission by Wassell.

Recently I noticed the seller I bought from has the same caliper now branded Girling and £15 more expensive!
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That sounds like Wassell have bought a licence to use Girling, same as they did Lucas. I think Girling was part of Lucas at one point, if so then easy for Wassell to add Girling to the Lucas licence agreement. But then the shocks will no doubt just be EMGO so not cutting edge just bog standard with a Girling sticker.
 
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