Stainless Steel Nuts & bolts

TT

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Where possible I have tried to use Stainless Steel nuts & bolts when reassembling bits on my MkIIa. eg. Mudguards, exhaust, sidecovers, z-plates etc.

I go along to my SS shop and get shuffled to a corner where the UNF bits live. This is an expensive corner as I have found out. The 1/4 and 5/8 bolts (and nuts) appear to be 4 times more expensive than the Whitworth (or metric) SS equivalents.

Is there a reason for using the UNF parts? They have a much finer thread than then other bolts which may resist the major vibration a Norton twin generates.

Should I just grin & put up with it or look at the alternatives?
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TT,

Personally, I would stick with the same thread profile as the original fasteners. A finer thread will not loose its pre-load as easily as a coarse thread.

Be careful when making up stainless on stainless, as the threads have a tendency to gall. Grease with a high Moly content will help prevent thread galling. Also, stainless steel fasteners are generally not as strong as their carbon steel cousins, so I would not use stainless for highly stressed bolting applications.

Jason
 
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Jason

What about putting stainless nuts on carbon steel studs. Some of the "fixing kits" don't replace the studs for the head to cylinder.

Scooter
 
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Scooter,

First let me apologize for my grammatical error in the previous post: I sometimes get “loose” and “lose” mixed up. I know better, it just pops out uncontrollably, like a sneeze.

Funny you should mention stainless steel fasteners for Norton cylinder head applications. I asked this forum a very similar question over a year ago. I was concerned that stainless steel head bolts would stretch, allowing the head to separate slightly from the cylinder, resulting in a blown gasket.

However, several forum members reported that they had been using stainless steel head bolts for years with good results. Notwithstanding this favorable response, I’m still a bit suspicious about using stainless steel fasteners to bolt down the cylinder head.

Regards,

Jason
 

ILLF8ED

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S/S fasteners

The 30lb/ft torque on the 3/8" bolts and 20lb/ft on the 5/16" isn't all that much stress for s/s head bolts/nuts. I'm one that has been using s/s fasteners on my Commando for years. The only head gasket problems have occurred when using a copper gasket. My combat engine doesn't like these preferring the composition flame-ring type. There are no instances of s/s on s/s anywhere as the original studs are being used with s/s nuts or the s/s bolts thread into the iron cylinder.
 
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