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commando6868 said:
Does anyone know if any 1975 Nortons left the factory wit non Smith gauges? Veglia?

Yes, Veglias were also fitted from '73, including on the 850 Mk3.
 
L.A.B. said:
commando6868 said:
Does anyone know if any 1975 Nortons left the factory wit non Smith gauges? Veglia?

Yes, Veglias were also fitted from '73, including on the 850 Mk3.


Thanks, my tack is Smiths, speedo Veglia. I was thinking the used whatever they had on the shelf that day.
 
commando6868 said:
Thanks, my tack is Smiths, speedo Veglia. I was thinking the used whatever they had on the shelf that day.


I think it's more likely one has been replaced at some time.

Do they both have the blue and white NVT logo on the dial?


Roadsters were supposedly fitted with Smiths and Interstates with Veglia.
http://britmoto.com/manuals/Manuals/8503e_pt.pdf
pdf p.76.
 
Is this a Veglia ? (74 Interstate).
It doesn't actually say veglia there on the face...

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Wonder how France wangled an assembly plant deal ?
 
Rohan said:
Is this a Veglia ? (74 Interstate).
It doesn't actually say veglia there on the face...

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Well maybe, IMHO aftermarket
 
Seen a few of those, all on Interstates, so I'm thinking they were oem.
And several owners swore they were on from new.
?
 
Rohan said:
Is this a Veglia ? (74 Interstate).
It doesn't actually say veglia there on the face...

But it should say Veglia on the case. If it has Veglia on the dial, then it's probably a Triumph item.
http://www.mapcycle.com/categories/inst ... ia-oe.html

jimbo said:
Well maybe, IMHO aftermarket

Definitely original Norton.
http://www.mapcycle.com/categories/inst ... eglia.html
The "Easy read speedometer with trip mileage (Interstate only)" and tach. in this brochure are Veglia. Smiths Commando speedos didn't have the trip counter until '75.
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One from my own collection.
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850 Mk3 (NVT).
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Rohan said:
Is this a Veglia ? (74 Interstate).
It doesn't actually say veglia there on the face...

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Wonder how France wangled an assembly plant deal ?


My speedo looks just like like the one at the bottom of the post, no green globe, no blue and white arrow, no Norton on the face, just "made in France" at the bottom. It does not say Veglia on the face.
A bit of history on the bike: according to the factory records per the serial number, it rolled off the assembly line in November 1974. I bought it from the second owner who never rode it, he took it in trade for some landscaping work. The odometer read just over 5000 miles, and the bike looked new. I have put over 65,000 miles on it and the odometer is very accurate checked against a GPS on long trips.
Several opinions posted, but I guess I would have to communicate with someone who worked at the factory back the to know for sure.
Thanks for the information.
 
Look anything like this? Feb. 1975
 

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commando6868 said:
Deets55 said:
Look anything like this? Feb. 1975

That is the same one on my 75, is it also off a 1975?

Yes, head stock tag is stamped February 1975, frame number correct for that year and numbers matching engine/gearbox. They were on the bike when I bought in 1990, the numbers on the tach and speedo appear to be correct for that year. Since they are stamped made in France I assume they are Veglia units.

Pete
 
L.A.B. said:
Definitely original Norton.
http://www.mapcycle.com/categories/inst ... eglia.html
The "Easy read speedometer with trip mileage (Interstate only)" and tach. in this brochure are Veglia. Smiths Commando speedos didn't have the trip counter until '75.
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One from my own collection.
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850 Mk3 (NVT).
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Les,

I have also read that the Interstates with trip odometer were Veglia, and those are the only I have seen with the trip. However, look closely at the picture in the brochure. See the tapered needle as on Smiths gauges? The Veglia's are straight. Perhaps some Smiths gauges with trip odometers were used?
 
The brochure pics are usually of mock ups made well in advance, the new parts may not available as production parts but pre production, so maybe for the pre production clocks Veglia used Smiths needles.
 
Ron L said:
I have also read that the Interstates with trip odometer were Veglia, and those are the only I have seen with the trip. However, look closely at the picture in the brochure. See the tapered needle as on Smiths gauges? The Veglia's are straight. Perhaps some Smiths gauges with trip odometers were used?


Some (apparently, early) Veglia gauges fitted to Commandos had tapered needles (as below), the instruments in the brochure appear to be Veglia as they have the 'Norton' logo on the dial as well as the green globe.

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I'd say the Veglia (left) tapered needles were not exactly the same as Smiths (right), but that's just my opinion.
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Norton Tachometers by niagaraz, on Flickr

The Veglia main odometers had no 'tenths' digit so there are only five digits instead of the Smiths six. Veglia trip odometers did have a 'tenths' digit, but it is a white number on red, not orange/yellow on black as Smiths. The Veglia odos. have larger easier to read numbers.
 
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