Spark plugs real or not

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So I decided to buy a couple of plugs. I normally buy NGK, I also normally use the basic ordinary plug (as it happens probably a good thing).
Anyway I wanted to buy a couple of plugs for the race engine (Commando) but they have been discontinued. I phoned up NGK support and they suggested an Iridium plug that had replaced the previous one.
So I started scouting out online and as usual ended up scanning through Ebay. I noticed some huge price disparities and being a natural skeptic started to wonder why some were so cheap. So a Google while later it turns out cheap fake copies are rampant, if you are going to copy something better a 50 quid note than a fiver, hence earlier comment about basic plug.
I did a bit of research about how to tell, it is not so easy!
Then I remembered a couple of years back I had bought a couple of Iridiums for the road bike and had been distinctly unimpressed, one had given up after a few hundred miles.
I had a rummage in the plug bucket and there they were, I remember thinking when I had changed them out (on the bike for no more than 500 miles) how corroded they looked. Sure enough I spotted them straight away from the others without having to read the label.
Differences were from a selection of other NGK plugs (using magnifying glass), so what I think were the fakes 1. Print was different (on the insulator), not quite as defined, a little smudged. 2. Metal work corroded. 3. The white of the insulator was slightly off white. 4. There were some differences with the side/ground electrode but I wouldn't be able to tell without more comparisons.
I can't remember where I bought these, knowing me probably cheap off Fleabay.
Moral....buy another make (apparently Denso are popular to fake also), pay a few quid extra from a reputable source.
Everyone probably knows this already, I am always late to the party!
 
Are you saying NGK BPR7ES are no longer available ... thanks
 
Fakes and false certification documents are becoming a real issue. For poor performance but also safety.

Poor quality steel with false documents is a big issue in NZ. There were well publicised problems with the steel on the foundations for the Waikato expressway. I know of three engineering shops here that have Had failures with supposedly certified steel. I read about steel issues with a hospital in Australia. Steel failure can kill people!

Right now I’m trying to decide if the FAG bearing I bought is the real thing. Checking the numbers but also talking to the supplier to see where it came from.

Unfortunately some people will do anything to make money and they don’t care if people get killed.

Always check the numbers and the source on anything where failure is disastrous
 
Whilst it’s by no means a certain guarantee, buying from reputable sources does improve your chances. I’ve had good luck buying from here: https://www.gsparkplug.com/

The other thing to do is always assume new running issues could be the plug, and change them first. At least that way you confirm earlier on whether it is / is not a plug. We’ve all fallen into the trap of lengthy problem solving exercises... only to discover it was a humble spark plug after all!

And the final thing that I do is to ALWAYS throw plugs away as soon as they’re suspect. Old suspect plugs have NO PLACE in tool boxes, all they’re gonna do is cause confusion further down the line!
 
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I will just stick with my rotten old Champion plugs, I have tried the rest when a batch of Champions went bad back in the days but for some reason my Norton runs best on the old stock Champions and even better now with the Joe Hunt, they seem to last forever, its been over 8 years since I replaced them and over 30k miles, last time I pulled them they look as good as the day I put them in didn't even clean them just looked at them and put them straight back in.

Ashley
 
Nobody's copying the NOS Champ N4Gs I love. Bought a couple boxes of 8 for cheaper than new NGKs.
 
Fakes and false certification documents are becoming a real issue. For poor performance but also safety.

Poor quality steel with false documents is a big issue in NZ. There were well publicised problems with the steel on the foundations for the Waikato expressway. I know of three engineering shops here that have Had failures with supposedly certified steel. I read about steel issues with a hospital in Australia. Steel failure can kill people!

Right now I’m trying to decide if the FAG bearing I bought is the real thing. Checking the numbers but also talking to the supplier to see where it came from.

Unfortunately some people will do anything to make money and they don’t care if people get killed.

Always check the numbers and the source on anything where failure is disastrous



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Easily spotted when you have a genuine one in one hand and fake in the other - they are noticeably different in weight, though not come across a fake for a couple of years now. FE's link is a good and reasonable priced source.
 
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