sep 69 green fastback pic request :)

Hi everyone has anyone got a picture of a correct 69 fastback in green, want to have a nosey at a few things colourwise

Cheers,

Tom

Thats opening a real can o worms, if even the brochure pics cannot be relied on ? !
Why not just indicate which bits are of interest, and see where the conversation goes from there...

Roy Bacons "Norton Twins Resto book" is always a good starting point.
Although be aware it was written from a domestic model viewpoint, and all sorts of stuff went on with overseas models that may not be recorded.

ok mate few bits im curious on

what design should the norton be on the tank ? all gold or black with gold pin striping

green black or silver side panels guessing they are silver?

headlight shrouds black or silver ?

thats bout it figured out shes got the wrong pipes so thats an easy fix if I get her and read up bout the mudguards and bars for the 69's

uk fastback Im looking at hopefully if the offer bit goes well

This is what the NOC show for a 69 green Fastback.

http://www.nortonownersclub.org/models/ ... s/0059.jpg

Note there are some minor variations from stock shown (rear wheel cover, for example),
so rely solely on this pic at your peril.

Dont know how correct this is, but it sure is purty...

Or this earlier one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1968-Norton-7 ... 0886116592

And from a 2006 post (yes, I am bored...)

Ron L said:

I have done considerable research in preparation to building 3 '68 fastbacks and the best I have come up with is this. All 1968 models with the exception of the Earles Court show pre-production model were red tank and tail section with silver oil tank and side cover. These models also had the plastic badges. The frames had the sheetmetal headstock gusset and most were replaced by the end of the '68 model run. In 1969 the colors were red with black oil tank and side cover and later a British Racing Green option and a silver flake with candy red panels. Both the latter are pretty rare as most were red with black. These models lost the badges (no pun intended as the early model was prone to them falling off) and used the traditional Norton decal. Some time late in the year and through the 1970 model year the headlight ears and fork shrouds were chromed.

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The question was on 1969 green fastbacks, so that NOC pic is the example to take note of.

Green sidecovers and gold decals look neat, and I'd prefer this look if I get to doing one, but is far from stock.
A bit of individuality is not unknown in bikes though !!

Correct Fastback green?

The only sure way is to unearth the original fibreglass from under whatever paint has been applied since.

Yes, I know it's for a later bike...

Have a look at my Avita, original fibre glass untouched with norton water transfers. I could not touch the metalic fibre glass finish when I rebuilt the bike as it only had a few scratchs and marks and you can never realy get that finish in paint. The date stamp is 12/1969 which I think means it was a 1970 release as it has the chrome ears and other chrome bits. Click on my profile and have a look at my posts I think there is a picture of my bike there. Have not posted pictures for a few years and they are on the other computor I do not use now.
Ian

Scruff said:

Have a look at my Avita, original fibre glass untouched with norton water transfers. I could not touch the metalic fibre glass finish when I rebuilt the bike as it only had a few scratchs and marks and you can never realy get that finish in paint. The date stamp is 12/1969 which I think means it was a 1970 release as it has the chrome ears and other chrome bits. Click on my profile and have a look at my posts I think there is a picture of my bike there. Have not posted pictures for a few years and they are on the other computor I do not use now.
Ian

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Here are the original photos:

Naye ;

Well , maybe ; THERE IS a SERIES ( comprehensive even ) of pictures HERE http://de.vintage-motorcycle.com/imagev ... lleryid=19 of a New Machine AT THE TIME . 5000 years ago :shock: .
other than maybe its not green , and maybe they hadnt finalised the cable runs , NOT mentioning the Tacho Drive , its got rather detailed details . ARNT WE LUCKY .
theres a S with No Mufflers , New , on the same site .Says COMMANDO ^* for the Fastback COMMANDO 69 for the ' S ' . : http://de.vintage-motorcycle.com/index. ... de&site=16

This loks like a pedantically restored one to me ,

COLOUR , from up in the Tunnel , youd get unfaded original , for a colour match . JADE is closest natural green .

Caveman Doultons was the Ex Auckland Motor Show Ex U. K. Motor Show ( check the Dates ! ) machine flown to N. Z. by Colemans .
The Story was he was going to have to wait for the BADGES before theyd let him take it , post show .
He Had been negotiating , visited Thrice . Cash - $ 1800 I believe .
The dudgen apparent till delivery lifted prematurely , The Badges ( to replace the Green Globes - also supplied ) were In Wanganui . So The Thursday post show , the machine was recieved .
The expectation was a fortnight. Colemans were adsverse to releaseing the sensation of the show , in the motorcyle vernacular , with NO Visable means of IDENTIFICATION .
So fitted the Red / black ( I Believe ) badges " NORTON " Pre Delivery .

As this thing lived over the next hill , adjacent to the Boat Shed where I were sometimes on a Friday post school . Where Id be dissapointed to not hear it climb out of the valley for his weekend jaunt .
Being as the pace of life wasnt entirely frenetic then , If he were dropping of his mail at the post office - I observed it at close quaters there severally .Though the first time he was near mobbed, and
the second you wouldve had to barge through the group . Was pleased when he stopped and chatted . so this on occasion occured ( Pre Off & Up the Hill - heading for the opposite coast ).

First Year at Colledge it occasionally ( Ea Friday that summer , & other occasions ) IT WAS PARKED in the TEACHERS CARPARK . Though studying it outside the Post office was the close observation .

Maybe COLEMANS still have records of this , First Commando in N. Z. , presumeably ' special ' paperwork as NOT part of a quantity order as in delivered by air for the Motor show .for what its worth .

A 1968 / 69 issue of this

Has a roadtest with nemerous largeish pictures of a SILVER production FASTBACK , which would be fairly usefull for checking production spec .
other than that its on newsprint type paper . Dobt if their main office would have kept the negatives in their archives . Might be worth tracing the Photographer ,
if one was desperate or loaded . good Quality portrait type pictures .

No doubt theres one or two other Green Ones about out there , unrestored .
As the Paternal yacht Manufacturing concerns prefered colour was a Dark British Racing Green for the Keel Boats , a study of GREEN ( colour ) was a early disipline .

Commando is about 5 down from light in the 7 std. dulux B. R. g. of the period . the Yachts were a Darker Jade .

nice one lads interesting reading whats the general concensus then gold lettering on the tank or black with gold pinstripe ?

Matt Spencer said:

A 1968 / 69 issue of this

Has a roadtest with nemerous largeish pictures of a SILVER production FASTBACK , which would be fairly usefull for checking production spec .
other than that its on newsprint type paper . Dobt if their main office would have kept the negatives in their archives . Might be worth tracing the Photographer ,
if one was desperate or loaded . good Quality portrait type pictures .

No doubt theres one or two other Green Ones about out there , unrestored .
As the Paternal yacht Manufacturing concerns prefered colour was a Dark British Racing Green for the Keel Boats , a study of GREEN ( colour ) was a early disipline .

Commando is about 5 down from light in the 7 std. dulux B. R. g. of the period . the Yachts were a Darker Jade .

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What month and year Two Wheels magazine is that Matt?
Some of mine are missing their covers but I've seen that one somewhere.

Regarding green, I took my last Roadster tank to a painter in Sydney (circa 93). He was regarded as the best but I can't unfortunately remember his name. I wanted the tank painted BRG. I know, there never was such in a Roadster but that's
what I wanted. He told me Norton's idea of BRG was in fact BMC green. BRG is a very very dark green, as seen on some MG's
you see about. He showed me a colour catalogue identifying the two different greens and sure enough his description was right.
I think he'd had trouble with other Norton owners jumping up and down, I want BRG, I want BRG!! So thought he'd put me
straight before furthering the discussion. Might be worth a whole new forum for this one?

Matt Spencer said:

A 1968 / 69 issue of this

Has a roadtest with nemerous largeish pictures of a SILVER production FASTBACK , which would be fairly usefull for checking production spec .
other than that its on newsprint type paper . Dobt if their main office would have kept the negatives in their archives . Might be worth tracing the Photographer ,
if one was desperate or loaded . good Quality portrait type pictures .

No doubt theres one or two other Green Ones about out there , unrestored .
As the Paternal yacht Manufacturing concerns prefered colour was a Dark British Racing Green for the Keel Boats , a study of GREEN ( colour ) was a early disipline .

Commando is about 5 down from light in the 7 std. dulux B. R. g. of the period . the Yachts were a Darker Jade .

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Are you a Spencer of Infidel lineage?

phil yates said:

Matt Spencer said:

A 1968 / 69 issue of this

rs but I've seen that one somewhere.

Regarding green, I took my last Roadster tank to a painter in Sydney (circa 93). He was regarded as the best but I can't unfortunately remember his name. I wanted the tank painted BRG. I know, there never was such in a Roadster but that's
what I wanted. He told me Norton's idea of BRG was in fact BMC green. BRG is a very very dark green, as seen on some MG's
you see about. He showed me a colour catalogue identifying the two different greens and sure enough his description was right.
I think he'd had trouble with other Norton owners jumping up and down, I want BRG, I want BRG!! So thought he'd put me
straight before furthering the discussion. Might be worth a whole new forum for this one?

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I was attending the Mittagong Dawn Service early this morning and the painter's name came to me, I think.
Alan Keid of Sydney, if anyone knows of him? Pretty sure that is right. Might have retired long ago but he did a beautiful paint job on my Roadster.

That looks suspiciously like a GT750 Duc, so would place that issue circa 1972 ?

Mortons Publishing has placed online all the old pics taken by the english motorcycle magazines (and others).
Huge archive, if you can find it in the somewhat basic index.
B&W mostly, but quite detailed images - the newsprint published versions are quite limited in comparison.
Can't quite recall how to access it, anyone ?

Found it, it shows this 1969 Fastback pic.
Click for a slightly larger version.
http://www.mortonsarchive.com/v/stock/5 ... ve-mortons

They seem more geared up to sell pics than show them...

Scruff said:

Have a look at my Avita, original fibre glass untouched with norton water transfers. I could not touch the metalic fibre glass finish when I rebuilt the bike as it only had a few scratchs and marks and you can never realy get that finish in paint. The date stamp is 12/1969 which I think means it was a 1970 release as it has the chrome ears and other chrome bits. Click on my profile and have a look at my posts I think there is a picture of my bike there. Have not posted pictures for a few years and they are on the other computor I do not use now.
Ian

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Ian
Maybe a coffee and pie at the Robertson Pie shop sometime?
That's halfway between the two of us.

Phil

Take some new pics when you meet. ?
i love that shade of Fireflake Emerald Green.
And that is one colour you almost never see in any of the Norton books.
Fills a gap in the list of colours Nortons used too...

BTW, HD last year came out with a range of what they called Hard Candy Colors.
To my untrained eye, it looked like Fireflake Green, Bronze and Silver...