Reverse shift pattern
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It's not that simple.
You need to scribe a reversed profile (as seen in a mirror) on the other side, that is to say 180 degrees rotation, and grind it to match. You really need another cam plate to do this proper.
User bill sent me a photo once but it's long gone along with the interest to have a reversed shift pattern.
I have rearsets so I tried it with the stock shifter facing back and could then re-appreciate the 1up 3 down pattern.
Mick Hemming has them I think.
You need to scribe a reversed profile (as seen in a mirror) on the other side, that is to say 180 degrees rotation, and grind it to match. You really need another cam plate to do this proper.
User bill sent me a photo once but it's long gone along with the interest to have a reversed shift pattern.
I have rearsets so I tried it with the stock shifter facing back and could then re-appreciate the 1up 3 down pattern.
Mick Hemming has them I think.
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toppy said:
this is exactly how to do it ,i did so and it works
i posted a thread on this forum about it so if you do a search for reverse camplate you must find it
Re: Camplate
Postby lynxnsu » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:39 pm
I somewhere read on this forum how to make an reverse camplate.I made mine by grinding the notches in a standard one only to find afterwards that you can swap the plate over Here s how I did it
Press the spidle off
Turn the camplate 180°(like a pancake)
turn it 180°(12 o clock becomes 6 o clock)
press the spidle back on
Or buy one from Mick Hemmingslynxnsu
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Why would you want to change the shift patten, I recond the way the Nortons shifts is the best way, I have owned my Norton for over 37 years now and think every other bike has the gear shift the wrong way around, but thats my opionon, I own 2 Nortons, 2 jap dirt bikes and new Triumph and never have any problems with changing gears, remember the Norton shift is the racing shift patten.
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Statistics show, that in a panic stop, that folks that switch between different pattern bikes will stamp on the wrong lever a small percent of the time.
Keeping em all the same sure makes a lot of sense....
I seem to recall this camplate discussion before. ?
The camplate needs the notches cut at different spots, and the camplate to be a mirror image for this to work.
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Keeping em all the same sure makes a lot of sense....
I seem to recall this camplate discussion before. ?
The camplate needs the notches cut at different spots, and the camplate to be a mirror image for this to work.
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Because if you drive other modern bikes as well , you can forget. Like my friend Stan who blew his gearbox all over the highway.
toppy said:
Hi toppy, Well it is your bike and you gotta go with what you want right? Personally, I'm happy with my MKIII left side "standardized" shift pattern. However, like ashman says the Norton right side 1 up 3 down is/was the "standardized" racing shift pattern and I remember really enjoying riding my brothers '70 model 750 and stompin' on that thang while grabbin' a handful a throttle
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I have standarded foot pegs so have no problems with my arms as for the gears shift your gears shift is still going to be on the right hand side of the bike, diffrent from moden bikes (unless its a MK111) so changing the gear patten won't help if the gear lever is on the other side, you just need to train your brain, I don't even think about it when on diffret bikes, it just comes natural to me to do the right shifting on the other bikes as for emergency braking you are always going to grab the front brakes which are all the same as we know the front brake does all the work.
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Its a right foot shift but I can deal with that fine. I thought that I would also cope with standard shift pattern as I was using my right foot my I would know to use different shift pattern with different foot but I think the gearbox will die before I get the hang of it. Up shifting is not to bad but down shifting when braking for junction or in emergency when you have other things apart from gear selection to think about are not good. If it was down for down pattern then at worse in emergency stopping situation if I forgot then one foot would still be braking an other down shifting. So far I have got away with it but in heavy traffic I may not be so lucky some day when I shift down in mistake for up.
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I swap frequently between my more modern bikes and the Commando and find that if I stop to think about it, I'm often flummoxed. If I just "go with the moment" somehow something knows which way to operate the shift automatically. Time and again I've been left slipping the clutch away from a start in second gear on my modern because I hesitated and engaged brain instead of gear. Weird.
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When I first brought my Norton Commando new in 76, I was 17 years old and have only rode jap bikes before that, I picked my Norton up and when I left the shop I just got around the corner and a bus stopped in front of me, I went for the brakes and hit the gear lever instead but lucky I had quick reflexes and turned around it just missing the rear bumper, I shit myself and was a very carusous ride home after that, it took about a week to train my brain after that, so give it time to train your brain, you won't hurt the gear box, all you will do is labour the motor by going up a gear and most of your braking is done by your front brakes.
So get use to it and enjoy smooth gear changes as mine just clicks into gears, its such a sweet gear change compared to left hand changes.
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So get use to it and enjoy smooth gear changes as mine just clicks into gears, its such a sweet gear change compared to left hand changes.
Ashley
I've owned (and even ridden) a mix of bikes - brit euro jap and murican.
I've taken to putting a bit of tape on the tank with the word BRAKE on it, on the brake side.
If you need to think about it, the tape helps a few milliseconds....
Just seeing it there helps the ole brain remember where it will be on that bike.
The gears you can think about a bit longer...
Likewise, euro cars and others have the blinker switch on opposite sides of the steering wheel.
That is guaranteed to have you wipe the windscreen on a few corners, if you switch vehicles a lot.
I've taken to putting a bit of tape on the tank with the word BRAKE on it, on the brake side.
If you need to think about it, the tape helps a few milliseconds....
Just seeing it there helps the ole brain remember where it will be on that bike.
The gears you can think about a bit longer...
Likewise, euro cars and others have the blinker switch on opposite sides of the steering wheel.
That is guaranteed to have you wipe the windscreen on a few corners, if you switch vehicles a lot.
acotrel said:
Off topic, as usual. The old 'suicide shift' - thats a whole different can'o'worms.
Lift your foot off the clutch pedal to catch your balance, and you are off into the traffic, ready or not !
They don't call it a suicide shift for nothing...
Course, clutch pedals soon came out with a lockdown, so until you press the unlock the clutch won't release unexpectedly like.
Can be retrofitted...
Indians with their left side throttle twistgrip are a good anti-theft device ?
HD riders just can't make them have a quick getaway - all still at idle !
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Hihttp://www.accessnorton.com/posting.p ... 1&t=17490#
I used to be able to swap from left or right up or down without pause when I was young
However all my bikes are now race pattern ie right hand side 1 up the rest down. I got it wrong once & although I smiled to myself & laughingly called myself a few names under my helmet. My Knackers wedged on the tank as my bike locked up & laid an 8 foot darkie played on my mind for a long while.
I don't use a lot of rear brake as I have very heavy feet & tend to use it only in moments of panic. This season I have been racing a CB350K4 to get out in the same race as my son. I am in the middle of having a conversion made that will allow me to adapt the gearchange over to the right hand side through the kickstart shaft. In the meantime I have moved the gearlever to get a 1 up 4 down pattern on the left. Just need to keep my right toes on the footpeg & all is well.
If a panic moment happens I can flap both feet as they cant do any harm
Chris
I used to be able to swap from left or right up or down without pause when I was young
However all my bikes are now race pattern ie right hand side 1 up the rest down. I got it wrong once & although I smiled to myself & laughingly called myself a few names under my helmet. My Knackers wedged on the tank as my bike locked up & laid an 8 foot darkie played on my mind for a long while.
I don't use a lot of rear brake as I have very heavy feet & tend to use it only in moments of panic. This season I have been racing a CB350K4 to get out in the same race as my son. I am in the middle of having a conversion made that will allow me to adapt the gearchange over to the right hand side through the kickstart shaft. In the meantime I have moved the gearlever to get a 1 up 4 down pattern on the left. Just need to keep my right toes on the footpeg & all is well.
If a panic moment happens I can flap both feet as they cant do any harm
Chris
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