Regular or Premium Gas

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My 850 is basically stock and recently rebuilt. I run good quality premium gas in it. After reading that the oil companies now use ethanol to get the extra octane, I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better for the bike to run good quality regular. Any thoughts. Jim
 
I assume that they also use ethanol in regular.
That is, they can use lower quality gas in regular too, and then, just as with premium, raise the rating of the regular with ethanol.
 
xbacksideslider said:
I assume that they also use ethanol in regular.
That is, they can use lower quality gas in regular too, and then, just as with premium, raise the rating of the regular with ethanol.

That's a good question.
 
Yes of course oil cartels use ethanol to replace octane with cheaper hydrocarbons and except for the GMOs and pesticides ruining great expanses of land and water supplies and adding more carbon pollution by inefficient corn crop for ethonal production and if engine fuel system can tolerate the booze and do not leave spiked fuel inside for seasons then only down side is distinctly less miles per gallon for about same price as all gasoline regular IF ya can find it.
 
Yes, ethanol is in 87 octane regular. That is 95% of what most retailers sell. You should see the train loads of it coming through here headed to the refineries. It can't be shipped through pipelines.
 
In the summer around here, you can find high-octane leaded marine fuel, but it can't be put into your tank, only in a fuel can. Not cheap, either. I will probably use E10 Premium with the occasional shot of lead substitute for valve/seat lubrication. Been using it for years in my '66 Ford ragtop and it still runs well.
 
ALL the pumps in my area (Chicago) are 10% ethanol. This is mixed in no matter what the octane grade. Death to the fiberglass tank.
I drain mine everytime I ride it.
I wish non ethanol fuel was available.
 
MikeM said:
ALL the pumps in my area (Chicago) are 10% ethanol. This is mixed in no matter what the octane grade. Death to the fiberglass tank.
I drain mine everytime I ride it.
I wish non ethanol fuel was available.
It is if you care to drive to your local airport and buy avgas at somewhat under $6/g, last time I got some.
 
As far as I know here in Australia if fuel has ethanol it must be clearly marked as such and it is only in the regular fuel which is 91 octane, also available is 95 octane and 98 octane which don't contain any ethanol. Some garages still have regular 91 with no ethanol and use this fact as a selling point (it is a couple of cents a litre more expensive). I use the 98 in my Norton as it has 10.5:1 compression, and the cheaper 95 in the Hinckley Bonneville which also has 10.5:1 I think (so you know which is my favourite bike now). I believe there is also a product called E85 (85% ethanol) which is used in specially designed racing cars.
 
In Minnesota, land of E10, about every 10th gas station has a non-oxy pump for small engines and old cars. It is typically 25% more than E10.

Greg
 
In the UK buying premium has a good chance being ethanol free, all standard grade contains ethanol.
 
MikeM said:
ALL the pumps in my area (Chicago) are 10% ethanol. This is mixed in no matter what the octane grade. Death to the fiberglass tank.
I drain mine everytime I ride it.
I wish non ethanol fuel was available.

Around my area, Marathon stations have what is called rec90...It is 90 octane with no ethanol, supposedly to use for offroad rec vehicles..It cost a bit more but worth it for cycle, IMO..
 
Farm and aviation fuel does not have booze in it. I've a 300 gal over head tank with agraclutural 91 oct no lead so that's mostly what i top off with but out and about get 91 leaded as highest generally available here. I've run my Combat on 87 oct lots of miles w/o detonation but try to keep 87 in mind not to snap throttle in upper gears or lug in top curising-climbing THE Gravel lanes. If runing 87 a lot might consider retarding spark a little bit.
 
Here's another web site that you can use to find ethanol-free fuel in the US and Canada:

http://pure-gas.org

Believe it is completely self-reporting so not always accurate or up to date. Does give some useful information about certain brands in certain regions being ethanol-free that are not necessarily advertised as such

I run ethanol-free 91 octane in my Commando and all my other bikes and small motors mostly because that is what is available to me locally. They all seem to like it!

Tobin
 
MikeM said:
ALL the pumps in my area (Chicago) are 10% ethanol. This is mixed in no matter what the octane grade. Death to the fiberglass tank.
I drain mine everytime I ride it.
I wish non ethanol fuel was available.

Does appear to be an ethanol-free fuel dead zone around Chicago!!

Regular or Premium Gas
 
We still have 91 Premium Clear (no booze) available here in Kansas. Some stations blend up to the 91octane level by using booze because it's cheaper.
 
I think it's ironic & somewhat misleading that when I click on the buyrealgas.com website that the adds that pop up are all for places selling E85 & when I select my state of California more E85 stations come up. You have to be careful not to accidentally click on one...
 
MBTE was originally mandated in gasoline by the EPA in major metropolitan areas that had smog problems. When it was phased out ethanol took its place. That's why you only find stations selling ethanol free in predominantly rural areas. I've used e10 in Brit bikes for over ten years with no significant problems. I do use the stayup floats, new Amal internals, modern petcocks and gas line. One bike has a por15 treated tank and has had e10 in it continously for over ten years with absolutely no deterioration. IMHO like the loss of lead, the problems with e10 may be overstated, excepting fiberglass tanks.
I should also add I am against ethanol for a host of other reasons, it's gouging the taxpayer/consumer and enriching big ag and it's an environment disaster. Google the "gulf of mexico dead zone" and you can see the impact of increased runoff and pesticide use on marginal ground in the midwest. It also doesn't seem right to burn food in vehicles when not everyone on this planet is well fed.
 
I have been running regular gas with a cap full of StarTron in my 74 Cdo for years now with zero problems.
 
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