Registration / bureaucracy hurdles.

marshg246 said:

Ya, I read that this morning in a different place, but then I read: "The head of state, Queen Elizabeth II, holds the title Lord of Mann and is represented by a Lieutenant Governor. " (Now Charles)

From the link you provided: The Isle of Man is an internally self-governing dependency of the British Crown and its people are British citizens.

So, another uninformed US question: Are British Citizens UK Citizens or is there a difference?

Guam is a US territory, has its own government, its people are US citizens but cannot vote in presidential elections and although they have representation in congress cannot vote there. If we had a King, it would sound about the same

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Sorry for going off topic, but if anyone is interested... The UK is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, but is part of the UK. The "British Isles" include Northern Ireland, so the people are British. I'm English, British and a citizen of the UK. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are separate "nations", but not separate "nation states". They have their own football teams, compete separately in the commonwealth games, yet we're all together in the Olympics as one team. England, Scotland and Northern Ireland have their own bank notes (but still the same "pounds sterling"), Wales does not.
Just so that's clear !

Since Brexit, Northern Ireland retains an open trading border with the European Union (no border restrictions with Eire), requiring some x-trade border restrictions between Great Britain and Northern Ireland, technically introducing a trade border within the same country. That has caused deep political problems in Northern Ireland. Bit of a mess, which could yet get ugly.

If its anything like New Zealand...worst case is...you may have to get recertification if rego has lapsed for over a year...pretty sure how it works here...The 2 B's...bureaucracy & bullshit

KiwiShane said:

If its anything like New Zealand...worst case is...you may have to get recertification if rego has lapsed for over a year...pretty sure how it works here...The 2 B's...bureaucracy & bullshit

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That wouldn't apply in the UK as a vehicle's registration doesn't lapse here (because registration, road tax, and insurance are all separate) plus the bike has been exported so needs re-registering in the Isle of Man, regardless.

Mart UK said:

Sorry for going off topic, but if anyone is interested... The UK is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, but is part of the UK. The "British Isles" include Northern Ireland, so the people are British. I'm English, British and a citizen of the UK. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are separate "nations", but not separate "nation states". They have their own football teams, compete separately in the commonwealth games, yet we're all together in the Olympics as one team. England, Scotland and Northern Ireland have their own bank notes (but still the same "pounds sterling"), Wales does not.
Just so that's clear !

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This video explains it in a nutshell, all very simple and straightforward. (But not in the EU anymore)

Strangely I did it the other way round, ie - imported a bike from IOM last February that had been registered in the UK from 1982 till 2008. I even retrieved the original UK number as it was printed on the IOM document. It all went well for me and didn't even have to pay a first licence fee as it was done all them years ago. I've had problems with DVLA in the past but this time al went smoothly. If I was you I'd get a friend in the UK to register it and then 'export ' it to you.

Update.

We are now registered!

The licensing lady was really helpful and accepted the stamped dating letter from the NOC that the previous owner included along with the paperwork - despite it being addressed to him.

Now then.

1974 in the UK. Would the bike reg have been on a black/white or orange/black plate at this time?

Bonzo said:

Update.

We are now registered!

The licensing lady was really helpful and accepted the stamped dating letter from the NOC that the previous owner included along with the paperwork - despite it being addressed to him.

Now then.

1974 in the UK. Would the bike reg have been on a black/white or orange/black plate at this time?

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Great result !

Orange n black.

Fast Eddie said:

Orange n black.

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Ace, prefer that.

Now I need to find somewhere that can knock up an 'original'. Y'know, with proper raised letters/numbers rather than a modern job.

For show purposes obviously

Bonzo said:

orange/black

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Yellow and black.
If it had still been registered in the UK then a legal loophole allowed historic vehicles to have black and white/silver number plates even though they would not have been legal at the time. This loophole has since been closed.

"With effect from the 1st January 2021, there has now been a change and going forward, any vehicle constructed after 1 January 1980 are now not eligible to display the classic black and silver number plates despite being recorded in the DVLA’s historic tax class. Those vehicles with a construction date prior to 1 January 1980 will continue to be able to legally display black and silver number plates to avoid any undue costs of replacement."

Bonzo, were you able to choose your registration number?

cliffa said:

Bonzo, were you able to choose your registration number?

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It's an option (at cost), but on this occasion I just went for a cheap & cheerful 'next in line' jobbie.

I registered my Commando here a few weeks ago using the dating letter from the NOC that the previous owner sent to me, as the DVLA advised (on two occasions) that they were unable to send the original V5C to me as I was overseas,

Came back from work tonight to find an envelope from the DVLA containing the original V5C.

I'm not sure if I should post this in the jokes & humour section.