Preferred disc pads for Commando?

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What say the brethren?

Ferodo, AP Racing, EMGO, or something else? I'm interested in stopping power, especially wet, more than wear/life.

Thanks.
 
Discussing this only today with someone, real world experiences of the above mentioned EBC pads would be good to hear. Sorry, don't trust sales blurb on sellers websites!
Cheers, Martin
 
sportsroof said:
Discussing this only today with someone, real world experiences of the above mentioned EBC pads would be good to hear. Sorry, don't trust sales blurb on sellers websites!
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My 850 Mk3 has EBCs front and rear.
Definitely better braking than with the previous Lockheed-made pads (and better still, with the RGM 13mm sleeved front master cylinder).

Ferodo Platinum also rated highly in previous discussions.

Also:
http://www.inoanorton.com/docs/Tech_Brakepads_0206.pdf
 
That's good info, definitely interested based on the stated characteristics, just what I wanted. Thanks for the info.
Cheers, Martin
EDIT: just ordered a set online, soon find out how good they are!
 
I have the Ferodo Platinums (by default) because, as far as I know, EBC sintered "HH" friction coefficient are not available for this application. (The EBC "HH"'s are my favorite) The Plats bite OK, I can squawk the (front) tire withOUT the sleeved master. Feels safe to me.
 
I use VESRAH pads in my bikes, just about to replace the race bike pads, they wear out with heavy use , dont tear the disc up and are great from cold, dont need a lot of action to get them working straight away under race conditions.
Regards Mike
 
Nater_Potater said:
Ferodo Platinum with the chrome removed from the rotor; love it.
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EBC's are good too.
There is a combination of things needed to be done on the old original disk brake system to make them "improved".
Pads,
Stainless braided line,
13mm kit for the M/C
You will get much better performance with more modern Front disk systems like cNw or Madass140 kits, but at a price. The original system will gain improvements if you concentrate on what is stated above.
Cheers,
Thomas
CNN
 
I have a bone standard setup, which I overhauled.
Put some Emgo pads in but like many other stock setups found the result pretty poor.
Before re-sleeving master cylinder I thought I'd try AP Racing pads that I got from Commando Specialties.
Big improvement and for me I really don't feel a need to upgrade the brake any more.
 
CanukNortonNut said:
Nater_Potater said:
Ferodo Platinum with the chrome removed from the rotor; love it.
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+1
EBC's are good too.
There is a combination of things needed to be done on the old original disk brake system to make them "improved".
Pads,
Stainless braided line,
13mm kit for the M/C
You will get much better performance with more modern Front disk systems like cNw or Madass140 kits, but at a price. The original system will gain improvements if you concentrate on what is stated above.
Cheers,
Thomas
CNN
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Ground and drilled/lightened disc, Ferodo, and 13mm MC. Braking now very acceptable. Stock felt like squeezing a two by four with little braking result.
 
I used CNW master cyl. and stainless line ... rebuilt caliper along with new ferodo pads ... stops quite well now with less pressure needed ...
Craig
 
Little update after my above post re: EBC pads. They arrived today and when I got home form work I stripped off the caliper, cleaned it up a bit (it's all low miles since rebuild a year or so back) and scrubbed the disc with 80 grit paper. Bunged it together with the EBC pads then took it out for a quick blast before dark. Didn't go far but initial impressions are vastly improved braking. Note: complete braking system is stock.
If it stays like this I will be happy and the bike will still look (and be) stock. I have wanted this quality of braking for a long time, it feels good! Thanks for the info.
Cheers, Martin
 
VINTAGE BRAKE highly recommends Ferodo Platinum and DOT 4 CASTROL brake fluid. Specifically CASTROL. They seem to work well but I have not done any thorough study.
 
Heres a pic of the VESRAH pads, No: VD 904 NRQ
There are becoming hard to get , they are for the Lockheed-Norton caliper.
Regards Mike
Preferred disc pads for Commando?
 
I wonder how many fitting new pads ever read the information sheet that comes with them and runs the pads in as advised so that they work correctly for the rest of their life? Mind you I wonder how many know the Coefficient of Friction value of the pads they are fitting.
For the original Commando disc brake Ferodo manufactured two different friction material pads, one with 'high/high' C of F levels (Ferodo 2424F)and the other with 'medium/low' C of F levels (Ferodo 2430). I often wonder how many moaning about the brakes performance had the wrong pads fitted......... Plus let us not forget that if you chrome a cast iron disc you reduce the C of F level by something like 10-15% and to get the same braking performance you should either put a lot more grunt into pulling the brake lever or change the pads to ones with higher C of F values.
I am NOT suprised that one owner in fitting HH rated pads had a improved brake!!! Wonder how many know the rating system and the C of F values they relate to??
Just a few thoughts.........
 
J. M. Leadbeater said:
Mind you I wonder how many know the Coefficient of Friction value of the pads they are fitting. For the original Commando disc brake Ferodo manufactured two different friction material pads, one with 'high/high' C of F levels (Ferodo 2424F)and the other with 'medium/low' C of F levels (Ferodo 2430). I often wonder how many moaning about the brakes performance had the wrong pads fitted.........
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If you continue to tell us this every couple of months then I expect we will eventually get the hang of it, but I think you are quoting from the distant past as I'm fairly sure Commando brake pads with those asbestos-based Ferodo compounds probably haven't been produced for many years and recent pads are more likely to be Ferodo (Platinum), AP, EBC, Vesrah, EMGO, SBS, etc..

I do remember that some of the first-generation asbestos-free pads and linings were not particularly good (not necessarily Norton).
 
Well, I do a little bit of Historic car racing so I do know a little bit about brakes and bedding in processes which is why I touched on the disc prep I went through before trying the new pads. I left out the 'race pads' bedding process I usually do with all brakes, even on standard road vehicles I work with. All seem to work fine after my 'attention'. I took my Commando out again today to check I wasn't dreaming about the brake improvement - all still good!
As an aside, I don't recall my first Commando ('73 750 Interstate in 1977) having a poor front disc brake, so maybe later replacement pads were not so good?
Cheers, Martin
PS: I did not realise how much the poor braking was putting me off riding my bike till it was improved!
 
J. M. Leadbeater said:
Dear LAB ...I suspect you are wrong.
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Then I suggest you prove it (not that I know what it is that I am supposed to be wrong about)?
 
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