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( Youd see the oil leaks in the snow , if it wasnt in shaddow ) oops sorry . notta Royal Oilfield . Stops Em Rusting.. anyhow .
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At lease the Batman had a bit of class, but not as good looking as the WW, but then Batgirl and cat woman weren't bad.
 
Some of the photos on those magazines were quite good. The might be even better when looked at through a haze ?
 
Actually , That wasnt a Shadow , it Was the Oil Leak ! . :oops:

I believe WW went Commando in that cat suit.
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Heres the New Norton Girl .

On TRACK . back then .
Allo Allo ,
On TRACK . back then .
you can see he's just cleeaned & moved it .It was parked 5 Yds back earlier .

And while Nortons been mucking aroud , Royal Oilfields got in with
On TRACK . back then .
 
back to WW video i would say the way those magnificent orbs were swaying at 2:11-2:15 she was brazzier-less at the least
 
What is the story with Matt Spencer ? He seems to know something but this thread has turned into rubbish. Perhaps he is related to Princess Diana ?
 
" Nortons were more oil-tight than Triumphs. "

Not sure that'd apply to MANXes , accey boy . now , whereas , a T100R . . .

On TRACK . back then .


Geared for 120 at 7000 , it'd pull 8000 in 3rd , close ratio box . on the straight , at the club ( short ) circuit . Pukekohe . On Avgass 7 1/4 : 1 C.R. ( Class ' C ' was 7.5 max )
Was Morrie ( Maurice ) Lowes engine .( Maybe in the Bonnie book , around P 50 . possable even Turner had a spin, back then. perhaps . Maurice certainly is )
Cut at 72 , back to 7000 at the grandstand , long track . Past by womble . Full T*t , a few surges and out to 7600 , then dice for the L H / Brakes , as the full Grand Prix circuit .

Sat down a few inches , pilot aboard . Prog. Rate Springs , F & R . p.s. Put your chin on the chin pad , BEFORE you hit the bump . NOT above it . :( and dont poke your tounge out .

Butcherd ex pranged commando frame toobs & 68 Tri Swing Arm . 3 .00 - 19 KR 76 Fr. 4.25 - 18 R Rear . Rather Gummy . Whole thing groaned and shuddered drifting the R H at Bay Park at about 45 in 2 nd .
Was gunna do a fresh 1 1/4 mandrel bent frame . That Suzukis frame was same tube Dia. but runs were 1/2 as long again . Seen a few Jap Fours with horrible oil leaks .

Proceedure was lap surfaces , and use steam pipe gasket paper , plus maybe PLIOBOND otherwise , if they were parked indoors .

Pre 1960 EVERYTHING had its ANUAL DE - COKE , so servicability was of more importance , plus a bit of oil flung around on winter salted roads only did a bit of good .
Crikey , AIR CLEANERS were an OPTION in most countries ! .

So whats a little bit of external oil , anyway . Durability was the primary objective , and serviceablity . Most of them had to earn their keep . Should neverve got rid of all that gear .
7600s 130 , with more to come . Bout as fast as a short stoke Manx , due to lighter'n smaller . Celertion & sppeed maybe . If youre ' under the paint .
71 C'do Fr Guard tapped the steering damper , it'd come down level , F & r ' on the stops . Tip Toey with narrow rims , but , way over , you had a lot of tyre on the road .

So their fancey new lean angles are nothing new either .
 
Matt Spencer said:
" Nortons were more oil-tight than Triumphs. "

Not sure that'd apply to MANXes , accey boy . now , whereas , a T100R . . .

On TRACK . back then .


Geared for 120 at 7000 , it'd pull 8000 in 3rd , close ratio box . on the straight , at the club ( short ) circuit . Pukekohe . On Avgass 7 1/4 : 1 C.R. ( Class ' C ' was 7.5 max )
Was Morrie ( Maurice ) Lowes engine .( Maybe in the Bonnie book , around P 50 . possable even Turner had a spin, back then. perhaps . Maurice certainly is )
Cut at 72 , back to 7000 at the grandstand , long track . Past by womble . Full T*t , a few surges and out to 7600 , then dice for the L H / Brakes , as the full Grand Prix circuit .

Sat down a few inches , pilot aboard . Prog. Rate Springs , F & R . p.s. Put your chin on the chin pad , BEFORE you hit the bump . NOT above it . :( and dont poke your tounge out .

Butcherd ex pranged commando frame toobs & 68 Tri Swing Arm . 3 .00 - 19 KR 76 Fr. 4.25 - 18 R Rear . Rather Gummy . Whole thing groaned and shuddered drifting the R H at Bay Park at about 45 in 2 nd .
Was gunna do a fresh 1 1/4 mandrel bent frame . That Suzukis frame was same tube Dia. but runs were 1/2 as long again . Seen a few Jap Fours with horrible oil leaks .

Proceedure was lap surfaces , and use steam pipe gasket paper , plus maybe PLIOBOND otherwise , if they were parked indoors .

Pre 1960 EVERYTHING had its ANUAL DE - COKE , so servicability was of more importance , plus a bit of oil flung around on winter salted roads only did a bit of good .
Crikey , AIR CLEANERS were an OPTION in most countries ! .

So whats a little bit of external oil , anyway . Durability was the primary objective , and serviceablity . Most of them had to earn their keep . Should neverve got rid of all that gear .
7600s 130 , with more to come . Bout as fast as a short stoke Manx , due to lighter'n smaller . Celertion & sppeed maybe . If youre ' under the paint .
71 C'do Fr Guard tapped the steering damper , it'd come down level , F & r ' on the stops . Tip Toey with narrow rims , but , way over , you had a lot of tyre on the road .

So their fancey new lean angles are nothing new either .
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My short stroke Triton had 63mm stroke and the rest of it was 650 parts, With separate pipes with megaphones it revved to 10,500 RPM but 1000 RPM less with a 2 into 1 exhaust system. I rode an ex- Ginger Molloy Manx 500. My 500 Triton was faster than the Manx, But I could ride the Manx much faster everywhere except down the straights. The best race bike is not necessarily the most powerful.
The power characteristic of a short stroke 500cc Triumph engine can be extremely nasty. You can make it go fast, but then you have to ride with it. Percy Tait was probably an exceptionally good rider.
I can still feel the pain.
These days when I race the Seeley 850, I never have anxiety. My Triton 500 was shocking, it was always waiting to bite me. The Manx was beautiful.
 
WW forgotten so soon.

Back in 1976 I looked at getting a new Bultaco 125 Pursang ($995)
Ginger Molloy had a shop in Huntly (His home town) and was the agent but I ended up getting a new 1976 RM125S (the factory 'hopped up model) for $1337 ($1448.67 after HP) from Coleman's Suzuki.

Fast forward to the 1990's and I am at a yearly two hour hare scramble on my 1986 Husqvarna 400WR (which I still have)
There is some red headed bloke there and am told it is Ginger Molloy, for an old guy he looked pretty fit (but he was old ?) and was riding a Honda CR 250 (iirc)
The flag dropped and I never saw him again until the after race BBQ.
You have to watch those old guys.

https://amcn.com.au/editorial/fast-talk-ginger-molloy-interview/

On TRACK . back then .
 
Argh , an H1R . a H2R is twice as likely to kill you . ? :confused:

On TRACK . back then .


You put h2r or Bonneville in the search injun , and all this modern rubbish comes up .
Even if it does have its wheels inline .
 
These days when I race the Seeley 850, I never have anxiety. My Triton 500 was shocking,
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The Olde 8000 on the 80 stroke , is 7800 on the 82 stroke ( T 12 / T 140 ) AND 7190 on the Commando ( 7200 ) .

The cut to Shenton spec. 1 3/4 pipes , with the Wassel ' mufflers :rolleyes:. March 8 , 1978 . ' north of Auckland ' .
, gave this a easy 1000 rpm increase . Not the chain guard . Jacket freshly laundered 50 miles back . Chain oiler adjustment .
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The old cow stayed on the road pretty well , A few miles back 2:56 below ( the road then was narrow , bridge STRAIGHT visability on hill
prvious nearr unimpeeded ) cranked over at a relaxed 50 . a logging truck at 5 mph ahead had us throw out the anchors . Cranked well over
Ran True & pulled down fine . Solo it pulverised the spine . Steadier two up . Had dragged - over at 80 two up . One way shocks were tragic .
Over 7800 , it had your full attention . Would be a handfull on a track , but darn quick . How to blow of a RD 350 ? Change into Top .
Ran a 14.5 on it after Id sold it , when it was completely r**ted . 1 intact ring , clutch scorched sh*tless , no punch & stuff all top end .,
Still ran away from a 74 XS & the 51 A10 in the mountain on the way home . Overhauled a few weeks later . Regained its equilibrium .
4.10 K81s both ends . Irish Fr English R . Two Way Damped rear shocks wouldve done wonders for it , stopping the rear jolting it fed you .

About 140.000 miles on it, then . Bit of a Jefersons Axe . New Crank & Head ( 8 stud worked ) incandesent baffles & 270 mainjets ,
the ' extractor ' effect , was Augmented . Like a two stroke on pipes . And as loud , but nothing like as annoying .
Anyway , past 80 odd the sound was behind it .

The T100R pulled from say 4000 hard , but not a lump in the powerband . Soft below that . the T120R pulled well at all rpms ,
but belowed with the ' Taps wide open ' . Anything at speed requires caution . The T100 maybe half the weight reacted quicker .
 
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Part of ' the Old Hunting Ground . ' the bridge at 6:48 weas part of the straight ( after there ) and narrow , tight Left , bank outside .
No Armco & othe bridge was flat & straight . So road narrower & twistier & sidelines undeveloped to visability good .



You'd ( I'd ! ) be easing off / cooling it , Other way , ' run the bends ' Middle of lane , theyre most all ' Constant Radius ' . So with the Dunlops
sit steady on the bends . Youd Come Along that straight ( the Opposite persuasion ) Hit it at the 60 sign , cut even and flick it over on the ( then )
Hard Right , thru . Up . Punch it up the hill , cut and crank left , easinging it open out off it , before when ' the cutting ' had no foliage .
Further on after the ( Then Flat & stright across further to the right , hard left exit ) 2nde Bridge . THIRD REALY . The Long One - ) the Visability
was way more open . Some demented relitive with the ' Highway Beautification Society ' plated a pile of poplars on the bank above the wenderholm
park exit . Blocking Visability on the aproach , on a already problematic stretch . You could see all the way down to the bridge then . At 2:00 .
Not the Current BLIND BENDS . So road was pretty safe if a degree of sobriety was involved . Safer than the Isle of Man .
 
My Triton 500 badly needed a six speed gear box and never got one. I could choose where I wanted to lose a race - either coming out of corners or at the ends of the straights. The motor gave nothing under 5,500 RPM, then it gave everything,
5,500 rpm in first gear was about 60 MPH So you could never go slower then that in a corner. If I had to slip the clutch, the bike would go sideways. On a big circuit it was worse, because the gearing was higher.
As a concept the bike was very good, but the gearing made it impossible.
A hot T100R probably needs a six speed close box.
I had to laugh. My young brother only road raced once, on a T120 Triumph. He tried to ride my 500cc Triton and it took him off the end of the circuit. You needed to get on the gas to gert around corners, but you would be going so fast in corners, it would un-nerve you.
 
I was once really hosed-off by a guy on a Bonneville around a sweeping bend on a public road, The guy used to go around there every day on his way to work. When you race on a circuit, after about 5 laps if you bare experienced, you usually know how fast you can take each of the corners. I add about 20% when I am pushed. But on public roads each corner is potentially different. I don't like that - I am not suicidal.
How can anyone remember every corner on the IOM, especially newbys ? Ken Blake was one of our top Australian riders.
When I was young, I had the opportunity to go there. I am under no illusions - I would have come home in an urn.
When Cameron Donald first raced, it was on the IOM. Short circuit racing is entirely different from riding fast on public roads
 
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