More Ducati Fever?

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Maybe Rossi needs the Ducati G.P. race team to have a good look at the `73 F 750 J.P.N. 'monococque'?
 
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J.A.W. said:
`70s 750 Ducatis had Seeley design frames but 'trellis' were late `80s/90s 851/916 onwards type, I recall Crashcart claiming that Bordi told him he`d copied Norton , but I dont rate him as a reliable source.

the 750 frames were not Seeley ones, they were designed by Fabio Taglioni, although they did incorporate Seeley type swing arm and adjusters. The 500 GP Ducati had the frame designed by Colin Seeley.
 
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So significant Seeley input was there then, on the`70s Ducati L twin chassis design?
Even if he didn`t actually build them himself, I`ll bet ol` Col` wouldn`t have liked the looong wheelbase though.
 
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I'll bite,,,

Taglioni's Pantah frame was his first wrap around type frame (trelis?), differeing from the bevel single and twin frames. The first Pantah was on the road in '79 but on the drawing board as early as '74.


Then in '81??? was the Taglioni TT2 frame that weighed 7kg, but it was never on a road bike, (manufactured by Verlicchi). The 750 F1 had a stretched version of this frame.


Then came the Bordi frames, 851, 888 and 916, monster etc These were diferennt to the SS belt frames.

The 500GP bike was around the tracks in '71.
 
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Good pix of those Pantah frames, thanks. You can clearly see - with those long sections of un-crossbraced frame tubing - why they tankslapped so wickedly.
 
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I have 4 desmos and 1 norton, guess which one gets the most attention?
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SURELY your'e not telling us that the Commando requires more tweaking !! Can't be ~ :D :D :D
 
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J.A.W. said:
Good pix of those Pantah frames, thanks. You can clearly see - with those long sections of un-crossbraced frame tubing - why they tankslapped so wickedly.

The Cagiva frame which was basically the Pantah frame.
 
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J.A.W. said:
Gets, warrants, needs, demands or deserves?
All of the above.

J.A.W. said:
Good pix of those Pantah frames, thanks. You can clearly see - with those long sections of un-crossbraced frame tubing - why they tankslapped so wickedly.
Sadly Ducati couldn't afford the extra metal.

Mum warned me not to buy a Ducati,,,,,,I should have listned.


That Cagiva looks like it's in good nick Dave,
 
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Woohha !! Look at the length of that chain on that Puppy !!

How links in one of those puppies ~ :shock:
 
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You may find that the stock airbox out-performs those pod filters. I saw you had one amongst the "extras" - don't throw it away!
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Woohha !! Look at the length of that chain on that Puppy !!
That's nuffin Stu, have a look at a TRX swingarm sometime.
 
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Gidday Dave

Good to see you again !

Ironically I was fraternising with a Bloke at The Cardwell Restorers rally several weeks back and he was riding a TRX ~

Really nice bike and they sure sound sweet ~ 8) but alas did not notice the swing and the chain!
 
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J.A.W. said:
Good pix of those Pantah frames, thanks. You can clearly see - with those long sections of un-crossbraced frame tubing - why they tankslapped so wickedly.
...and not just those. Almost every Ducati - single, bevel twin and belt 2 valve that I have ridden - would tend to slap if provoked, unlike the Commando, which remained composed on the same roads. Softening the suspension front and rear usually cured the tendency to slap.
 
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daveh said:
J.A.W. said:
Good pix of those Pantah frames, thanks. You can clearly see - with those long sections of un-crossbraced frame tubing - why they tankslapped so wickedly.
...and not just those. Almost every Ducati - single, bevel twin and belt 2 valve that I have ridden - would tend to slap if provoked, unlike the Commando, which remained composed on the same roads. Softening the suspension front and rear usually cured the tendency to slap.
My experiences are quite the opposite.....must be due to being down under then.....
I find my Darmah rock steady under all conditions ....I have swapped out the fork springs and dampers. I had a rubber band SS but found I liked the older bikes better so that went.
My work hack is an R65 but on the the odd day I take the Commando.....its like a (old) 250 on steroids......brings out the hoon in me. Handling will probably be improved when I fit Landown kit and Ikons I have and most likely a DT head steady.
 
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72Combat said:
My experiences are quite the opposite.....must be due to being down under then......
To be fair, it was really only on our bumpy Irish back roads that the bars would tend to shake. It never happened on British or European roads. So maybe a non issue for most of us most of the time!
 
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I`ve seen 2 incidents where a Pantah tossed its rider off in a straight line, both times down the [admittedly bumpy,[ but I `ve done an indicated 200kmh down there on an RG 500 roadbike - no drama] front straight at Pukekohe N.Z.-after wild bucking gyrations, quite nasty really.
 
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GRM 450 said:
That Cagiva looks like it's in good nick Dave,
If you've been reading the blog I'm have a bit of trouble getting it sorted. Every time I touch something, something else goes wrong. I took the tank off to clear the taps of a crap load of rust and when I put it back on the engine will race (3k) even though I can hear the slides bottoming out. I've got to tear everything off again and make sure all the cables are slack, the slides or chokes are not stuck and lord knows what else.

Sigh.

I've still got to figure out why the 860 seems to be running rich too. So much work and so little time.
 
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I have found with the Dellortos that the choke....er starter enrichener can stay on ever so slightly.... quite sensitive to float height too and air leaks. Keep at it as they are worth it.
 
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