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Hi Cliffa , I would like you to take some measurements of the port ID if you have the head off. If you have the valves out even better. I will attach a drawing so you can see where the measurements need to be made. I hope you have snap gauges to measure the intake and exhaust port ID’s at 4 or 5 places along the port tract. Let’s compare yours to the MCT heads.
Hi Tony, I'd be happy to help of course, but unless I find anything wrong with the head I won't be taking the valves out, and unfortunately don't have a snap guage. (I may be able to borrow one though). I'm 99% sure mine is an MCT engine as well though.
 
Hi Tony, I'd be happy to help of course, but unless I find anything wrong with the head I won't be taking the valves out, and unfortunately don't have a snap guage. (I may be able to borrow one though). I'm 99% sure mine is an MCT engine as well though.
OK thats fine . Take as many readings as you can , note that the real differences are at the valve guide to the bowl :

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The MCT head will also have the fins bridged in the casting like this :

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OK thats fine . Take as many readings as you can , note that the real differences are at the valve guide to the bowl :

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The MCT head will also have the fins bridged in the casting like this :

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Hi Tony, I haven’t forgotten. As soon as I get some space on the workbench I’ll get them for you. It’s definitely an MCT engine, so they are probably the same.
 
If you can also verify what type of neutral switch you have on your engine . In the MCT engine here it is larger in diameter and with 2 connections on the end. My 2014 neutral switch is both smaller in diameter and single post. Also in a slightly different position than my 2014. I can send a pic if you want.
 
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If you can also verify what type of neutral switch you have on your engine . In the MCT engine here it is larger in diameter and with 2 connections on the end. My 2014 neutral switch is both smaller in diameter and single post. Also in a slightly different position than my 2014. I can send a pic if you want.
Hi Tony, yes I’m familiar with that. The early bikes with the direct gear lever have a different selector drum, so the neutral switch is in a different position. When I changed to the later style lever and linkage I also had to put a later drum in as well, which meant the switch was now in the wrong place. Luckily my case was drilled for the later switch and plugged, so I got a later switch from Ollie and it worked fine. I left the original (Harley style) switch in place as a bung.

Is there a second drilling and plug on yours?
 
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Good news! Bought myself a 2013 Commando
Congratulations!! I hope it's Silver, they are the fastest, (oh, and the best looking.😉)
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Hi Tony, yes I’m familiar with that. The early bikes with the direct gear lever have a different selector drum, so the neutral switch is in a different position. When I changed to the later style lever and linkage I also had to put a later drum in as well, which meant the switch was now in the wrong place. Luckily my case was drilled for the later switch and plugged, so I got a later switch from Ollie and it worked fine. I left the original (Harley style) switch in place as a bung.

Is there a second drilling and plug on yours?
Not that I am aware of . I will check again. If I end up using the MCT transmission , I can always just use the 1st up 2 through 5 down pattern. This will remind me of my old Comnado ! But you say if I change over the 2014 shift drum all will be as it is now ? So if I understand , if I change over the entire gearset drum and all from the MCT , the neutral switch will be in the wrong place in the 2014 case . So I need to retain the 2014 shift drum as well. Are the shift forks compatible ?
 
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Oh that's interesting, and a shame. You may find the level plug is on the primary cover just below the gear lever shaft (that is where mine is).
No none there either . But easy enough to install. These are spare engines and I will have access to everything in it. I will be using an MCT head and barrel on my next build. I will be doing a 90 mm bore piston according to Ollie and the calculator should be 1005 cc.
 
Hi Cliffa , Can you get me a measurement of where the level check plug is on your primary cover ? Say if possible go from the center of the shift shaft to the center of the plug. I assume it’s on a line straight down from the shift shaft ? Can you provide a pic ? Thanks.
 
OK thats fine . Take as many readings as you can , note that the real differences are at the valve guide to the bowl :

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The MCT head will also have the fins bridged in the casting like this :

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Hi Tony, I measured each port at 25mm intervals and got these

Inlet / Exhaust

0mm = 35.7mm / 34.2mm
25mm = 35.4mm / 31.2mm
50mm = 35.27mm / 29mm
75mm = 34.49mm / 27.4mm
100mm = 34.75mm / Unfortunately I couldn't get far enough in to measure the exhaust port @ 100mm
 
Hi Cliffa , Can you get me a measurement of where the level check plug is on your primary cover ? Say if possible go from the center of the shift shaft to the center of the plug. I assume it’s on a line straight down from the shift shaft ? Can you provide a pic ? Thanks.
Hi Tony, no it's not directly underneath the shaft as you can see here. I found it easier to measure from the bottom by the gasket face and eyeball it. I did that three times and got 88mm each time. The level plug is M6 x 1mm pitch.

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