Mahindra BSA's

The closest I'll ever get to owning a real BSA goldstar is to build my own
A b50 motor in a b44 chassis
 

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A friend of mine sold his DBD34 awhile ago. Had I known he was selling it I likely would have bought it.
Knowing I like bikes with lots of passing power, his response to that comment was " the only reason to get a Goldstar is to find out you don't need a Goldstar."

Glen
 
Think a 5 speed box 'd be almost a necessity , theres 5 & 6's available. At a price . Pity about the traffic these days .

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If ' the new ' one will run hard and not fall to bits , it might make it . ?
 
A friend of mine sold his DBD34 awhile ago. Had I known he was selling it I likely would have bought it.
Knowing I like bikes with lots of passing power, his response to that comment was " the only reason to get a Goldstar is to find out you don't need a Goldstar."

Glen
Well Glen… instead of buying one like that, why not build one ?

B31 frame, 600cc engine, electric start, etc…?
 
Nigel, I have thought about doing that, it would be a fun project.
The other thought was to build a big cc Egli Comet with a TPrince head, if one could be found.
Then I realized it would be much easier just to remove a Spark plug from the Egli, there's my big bore Egli Comet:)

That leaves the BSA project to ponder.

Glen
 
Glen,

Great minds think alike / fools seldom differ… delete as appropriate !

I’ve had the same thoughts!

I think a big bore Comet has a lot of merit, either as an Egli or as a Grey Flash replica. I guess it would give you scope to build a lighter bike than a twin. But definitely more of a scratchers tool than a canyon touring bike I think. I looked at building a 500 Egli as the Godet racers are just things of beauty. But, as a track toy, I think a Manx would be a better bet (more robust engine designed for that use, and very plentiful parts supply and support in the U.K.).

As a fun road bike, I think a big bore Goldie replica would be ideal.

You've got ABSAF in Holland who build new engines up to 600cc and also Phil Peason in the UK who seems to be the ‘go to man’ for parts and info with such builds. 5 or 6 speed boxes are available, as well as e starts etc.

I’m looking forward to your build thread already… it will be a most welcome break from the trivialities !
 
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Went to Cobb and Jagger the other day to try the new Gold Star for size, felt ok bit heavy but changing the exhaust will probably lose ten kg. So I asked if they had taken it out for a ride but was told they weren’t given the keys for it as the half dozen bikes haven’t been homologated! The only road tests have been at Millbrook proving ground and Goodwood so far. Delivery of bikes for sale is promised soon but they have been saying that for almost twelve months, perhaps there is a problem with production or emissions? They have already got deposits for about a dozen so assuming the other dealers have similar it looks likely first batches will be already sold although once demonstrators are available that could change.
 
After reading all the comments, I don’t understand the dislike for these modern classics if I dare say? I currently own a 73 Commando and a 66 BSA Lightning and I absolutely love those bikes and all there needs and requirements. On the other hand, my everyday rider is a 2022 Bonneville Gold Line in green. Yes, this bike is heavy and pays homage to the old Bonnevilles but will never be and one should not expect it to be.

I think “ my opinion “ that we should be excited that these companies are building theses bikes -RE,Triumph,BSA and hopefully more. Theses new bikes have plenty of potential for modifications, racing and customization to fit any individuals taste. Another thing I like is there not plastic boring cartoon machines! They have spokes, chrome, cool paint jobs and sound great even they they have to come through a cat!

I have a co-worker who rode all Japanese bikes until I started working with him and now he’s waiting for his new RE 350 and also is looking at 47 BSA classic to add to his garage. So theses new bikes will introduce young people to the brands and hopefully drive them into keeping the old bikes alive for the future. We should encourage the new riders to look at these bikes and what they have to offer and ride on.
 
After reading all the comments, I don’t understand the dislike for these modern classics if I dare say? I currently own a 73 Commando and a 66 BSA Lightning and I absolutely love those bikes and all there needs and requirements. On the other hand, my everyday rider is a 2022 Bonneville Gold Line in green. Yes, this bike is heavy and pays homage to the old Bonnevilles but will never be and one should not expect it to be.

I think “ my opinion “ that we should be excited that these companies are building theses bikes -RE,Triumph,BSA and hopefully more. Theses new bikes have plenty of potential for modifications, racing and customization to fit any individuals taste. Another thing I like is there not plastic boring cartoon machines! They have spokes, chrome, cool paint jobs and sound great even they they have to come through a cat!

I have a co-worker who rode all Japanese bikes until I started working with him and now he’s waiting for his new RE 350 and also is looking at 47 BSA classic to add to his garage. So theses new bikes will introduce young people to the brands and hopefully drive them into keeping the old bikes alive for the future. We should encourage the new riders to look at these bikes and what they have to offer and ride on.

I'm not opposed to the retro bikes, I just thought the new BSA sounded anemic. I was hoping for a good cracking DBD34 sound, complete with twitter on overun.

24,000 kms on my retro Thruxton R to date. It would be closer to 40,000 by now if COVID hadn't come along.
 
I'm not opposed to the retro bikes, I just thought the new BSA sounded anemic. I was hoping for a good cracking DBD34 sound, complete with twitter on overun.

24,000 kms on my retro Thruxton R to date. It would be closer to 40,000 by now if COVID hadn't come along.
Ohh I agree with the anemic sound for sure. My Bonneville was a ”weezer” until I put some cheap Emgo slip-ons on it and sounds like a proper twin thumping away. I think the new Beeezer would be cool with exhaust, number plates and some clip-ons plus with some modified Bonnys it would make for some cool racing.
I haven’t heard to much about it coming here though?

Ohhh and the radiator is ugly
 
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This bloke built the Burs / wright L S R holder engine , so likely better than the average Grey Flash .
 
After reading all the comments, I don’t understand the dislike for these modern classics if I dare say?
One can percieve them as freeloaders trading in on others traditions .

" RESPECT "

Triumph , B S A , Norton were respected Names , awed in some quarters .

Asking the G P Drivers ' what was the best racing motorbike ' The reply was Gilera .
Can you buy the ? " NO " .
Whats the best one you can buy , then . ? " NORTON " , from the mouth of Brabham , Stewart & Others . Around 67 at ' the Steering wheel Club ' N.Z. G.P. .

I dont see anything to repespect . Reliable durable , sure ( Er perhaps ) But penache , style , unassailable , er no . Just another sausage machine product .
I dont think a exciteable twit with a computer whos ignorant of most Automotive ENGINEERING Traditions , can rival Turner , Ferrari , the Masserati's , Vauxhall ,
Dodge , Chrysler , Dusenburg , Offenhauser etc , BECAUSE THEYRE NOT IN THE SAME GAME .

Whatsmore , theyre NOT trying to be .

The BSA Chassis is not concieved to be fastest round Ascot , the Isle of Man , or anything else . The Originals had that in sight , at least . AT THE DRAWING BOARD .

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Avg. Corvette was a throwaway , so theyve got that in common , at least .
Id find something that someone feel off at half speed ( 270 mph ) sitting
in my foyer an embarrasment . If it didnt do what it outer . FAIL , score 0 .

Most seem designed to illustrate the designers cleverness , these days .
Something obviously lacking . They havnt built on the traditions .
Theyve copied Jap ' product engineering ' A Laverda looks like hewn
from solid . Sculpture . As did most BSA & Triumph ,
Form / Balance etc Form derived from function - With Style .

imitation is the highest form of flattery , but hardly betterment .
If it isnt betterment its retrograde , tho it may be more conveniant .

A Sopwith Camel would be damn invconvieniant , but its still the best Sopwith Camel .
and even has a H M Bently motor . NOT a Nazi or Jap one .

Hispano , Mikuen or Shvetsov ! . WINNERS .:cool: At the Pinnacle . Tho pre war they could be cantankerous .

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One might say they havnt fully earned their spurs , yet . The odd stroke of genius in ' speed triple '
as a name etc , and the 90 Deg. triple cranks something new . But that many twerps youd think
Theyed HAVE to come up with SOMETHING , wouldnt you . Infinate monkeys & Typwriters + Shakespears
complete works , given a bit of time . ;)

But they do appear to be monkeying .

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I suppose the problem is Plastic Cups & No smoking . A matter of sensabilities . would YOU take THIS ON ?

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All in a rush chasing their tails , and profits , these days .

Astom Martin existed for 70 years NEVER making a profit . ILLEGAL under Australian Law ! ( wouldnt be - then )

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Mostly wankers cars , these days , tho one looks like it'd make a pretty good Mk 1 Cortina 9 & a Jag V 8 a rally car in the same mold . but ' repect ? Hysteria more likely .

Soup one up a bit and it might go o.k. , but mostovem up close look a bit tacky , the computer opperators illustrating their ' design genius ' in computer art . Not really Blacksmiths , who had a Feel For It ! .
 
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MOST STYLISH MOTORCYCLE

( CAME UP nO 20 THROWINGITIN GOOGLEPICS 0 FUDGE . / ! )


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sTILL AREAS YOU CAN PICK HOLES IN IT . Have to to be constructive , dont we .
eliminatre FLAWS .

If they wanns get all girly 'n vindicative - or feely teary , Their Lookout . GROW UP .
Asked at Auckl. Rail Station what I thought of it , I shrugged my shoulders .

" The Leaves are indicative of barf blah bosum blat " said he . unmemorable .
Turned out He'd designed it ,
or the leaves ,
or something.
He didnt seem to sure ,

Just hiisy & shocked ,

I Thought ' a bugger to clean em . WHATS He on about . Twit .

stainless steel leaves on stainless steel pillars .

Also thought someones liable to get their coat caught / cut their thumb. Wonder they allowed it .

Space ship tech dosnt relate well to motorcycles . Yet . If theyre going ' heritage ' they should KNOW it .
Not ' make it up ' .

Missleading is highly offensive -
 
One can percieve them as freeloaders trading in on others traditions .

" RESPECT "

Triumph , B S A , Norton were respected Names , awed in some quarters .

Asking the G P Drivers ' what was the best racing motorbike ' The reply was Gilera .
Can you buy the ? " NO " .
Whats the best one you can buy , then . ? " NORTON " , from the mouth of Brabham , Stewart & Others . Around 67 at ' the Steering wheel Club ' N.Z. G.P. .

I dont see anything to repespect . Reliable durable , sure ( Er perhaps ) But penache , style , unassailable , er no . Just another sausage machine product .
I dont think a exciteable twit with a computer whos ignorant of most Automotive ENGINEERING Traditions , can rival Turner , Ferrari , the Masserati's , Vauxhall ,
Dodge , Chrysler , Dusenburg , Offenhauser etc , BECAUSE THEYRE NOT IN THE SAME GAME .
Looking at it all wrong.

The new BSA is a bike made by mass producers, to target 2 audiences:

-old guys that are past needing to prove anything
-nouveau riche Asians
 
Looking at it all wrong.

The new BSA is a bike made by mass producers, to target 2 audiences:

-old guys that are past needing to prove anything
-nouveau riche Asians
Maybe a third market
Maybe we will get young blokes buying one and then go on to buy an old original BSA ?
My mates that are in a mini (Austin Morris mini) car club tell me that blokes turn up in a modern German mini
They love the scene and go off and buy a classic mini
Maybe this only happens in the car world?
I'm sure there must have been people that bought a hinkley triumph and then went on to buy an original one?
 
Excitable twit?

As BAZ says and I said, they show up with new and go buy and old. The new will never be the old but it will get young people looking at the old as many have done.
 
@Matt Spencer said "Maybe a third market"

The BUYER part of the market is not what I was responding to from your post. It is the SELLER part. You referred to Mahindra as "freeloaders trading in on others traditions"

I disagree. They have target markets, are able to produce a very respectable product at a fair price, and paid a fair price for the name out of respect. I fully appreciate what they are doing and expect that they will accomplish something much closer to John Bloor than Stuart Gardner.
 
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The bike looks good overall. If the rad size could be reduced and a good looking/sounding aftermarket exhaust fitted, that's about all it needs cosmetically.


Glen
 
The BUYER part of the market is not what I was responding to from your post. It is the SELLER part. You referred to Mahindra as "freeloaders trading in on others traditions"

I disagree. They have target markets, are able to produce a very respectable product at a fair price, and paid a fair price for the name out of respect. I fully appreciate what they are doing and expect that they will accomplish something much closer to John Bloor than Stuart Gardner.
I think you have me mixed up with someone else
I have never said Mahindra are "freeloaders trading on others traditions" ?
 
I really like the new Mahindra motorcycle lineup. They have great styling as well as practicality in abundance.

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