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I have a sealed beam halogen on my bike but will be going back to the original
pilot/headlamp set up.

Trying to save on power consumption as I use the electric start all the time.

LED’s everywhere should help.

Cheers.
 
I have the LED tail light. Stock headlamp seems adequate as no gentleman should be out after dark. All I can say is use a real big good battery like the Odyssey PC 625 and cut off all the fins to fit. Bigger cables and the new 18 roller Sprag help too. Pull in the clutch for start-up too. DD starter motor if you don't have it already. $pendin' time.
 
Torontonian said:
I have the LED tail light. Stock headlamp seems adequate as no gentleman should be out after dark. All I can say is use a real big good battery like the Odyssey PC 625 and cut off all the fins to fit. Bigger cables and the new 18 roller Sprag help too. Pull in the clutch for start-up too. DD starter motor if you don't have it already. $pendin' time.
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Thank you for everyone’s replies, I’ll check all the recommendations out.

I have the Yuasa YTX 20CH BS battery installed with the Boyer PBOX 00166,
original starter with four winding conversion, bearings instead of bushings and
number 4 marine grade cables.

NOS solenoid and pull the clutch in when using the electric start.
Also free up the clutch before starting by pulling the clutch lever in,
gearbox in neutral and push down on kickstart lever.

Cleaned contacts on start button and went back to points ignition
after destroying the sprag when running a Boyer ignition.

So new sprag and associated other parts that have to be replaced when you
blow up a sprag and anti backfire device sent to Les at Norvil to be reset.

I have a Canadian model MK3 which requires daytime running lights.

Since I have the non Canadian 30552A ignition switch installed and
can’t find a Canadian model 30825A switch I’m going to use the 30552A
switch with a diode ( Lucas 953048 marked on one side and 83225B, 9501
on the other side) jumped between terminals 2 and 3 to duplicate the
function of the Canadian 30825A switch.

Also, replacing the Canadian headlamp unit 06-6392 with a new one
from Andover.

This should mean I can run the lights right from the alternator according
to the workshop manual, on position 3 on the switch, which will cut down
the drain on the battery.

Also going back to the 2MC capacitor and stock diode along with the
pair of Zeners as Boyer, in an email informed me I can’t run the
POWERBOX 00166 with the Canadian 06-6392 headlight unit.

Also, as mentioned previously, changing the sealed beam halogen
headlight unit back to stock as I am wondering if the extra load
of the halogen burned out the original Canadian 06-6392 headlamp
unit.

Then hoping to fit LED bulbs but might have to fit a rectifier as I’m
not sure the LED’s will run right off the alternator.


Have also read I would have to fit a flasher unit rated for LED’s
if I change the indicator (signal) lights.

Cheers everyone and thanks again.
 
LED (2018)


LED is the way forward, 90 in the pitch black easy!
 
I've found that converting to a 3 phase alternator keeps my battery always up to charge even while idling along in traffic with the big halogen light on.
 
As for flasher relay for LEDs, you can just add a resistor in line with relay to achieve desired flash rate. Without it, a stock flasher will flash too rapidly for most tastes. LED compatible flasher relays are readily available at most auto parts shops.
 
In my original parts book it lists two different head lamp assemblies, a standard one and a Continental/France one.
I assume it has to do with beam angulation with right and left hand drive? USA would be Continental/France?
AN doesn't show this on their web listings. Nor does Goff on his LED's.
What's the difference? Does it apply anymore?
 
@MichaelB yes, the glass headlight lens (or beam unit) is 'angled' for British roads or for Rest of World.

They are described confusingly (especially for motorcyclists):
  • (British) Part number is LU26570083R
  • described as RHD (because cars are right hand drive)
  • but they are left hand dip for use on UK roads, in England, Scotland Wales etc, and other countries, where you drive on the LEFT side of the white line.
  • (Europe/USA) Part number is LU26570083L
  • described as LHD (because cars are left hand drive)
  • but they are right hand dip for use in Europe and other countries, where you drive on the RIGHT side of the white line.
 
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MichaelB said:
In my original parts book it lists two different head lamp assemblies, a standard one and a Continental/France one.
I assume it has to do with beam angulation with right and left hand drive?
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Not exactly. French headlights at that time had to emit yellow light.
http://www.french-cars-in-america.com/why-did-france-have-yellow-headlights

https://andover-norton.co.uk/en/shop-details/17651
https://andover-norton.co.uk/en/shop-details/17436


MichaelB said:
USA would be Continental/France?
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Lucas BPF motorcycle headlamps were 'standard' type with a flat dip pattern so used for both LH and RH drive countries and only later became specifically LH or RH dip with the introduction of motorcycle P36t/P45t/H4 headlamps.
 
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Fast Eddie said:
I use the Daylighter from Paul Goff. Very. bright, very low draw, very easy, very happy.

http://www.norbsa02.freeuk.com/goffyWhyNotLEDs.htm
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I installed one of those and found that the low and high beam switch functions were reversed with high beam indicator light
illuminated while in low beam mode. I tried it in my Triumph Tiger and the same thing happened. Both bikes positive ground.
It sure was bright! I'm back with the OEM bulb now. I have 3 phase alternator and don't ride at night.
 
L.A.B. said:
Not exactly. French headlights at that time had to emit yellow light.
http://www.french-cars-in-america.com/why-did-france-have-yellow-headlights

https://andover-norton.co.uk/en/shop-details/17651
https://andover-norton.co.uk/en/shop-details/17436




Lucas BPF motorcycle headlamps were 'standard' type with a flat dip pattern so used for both LH and RH drive countries and only later became specifically LH or RH dip with the introduction of motorcycle P36t/P45t/H4 headlamps.
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Thanks, never knew about the yellow.
Information and a History lesson, all in one.
Thanks again..
 
lazyeye6 said:
I installed one of those and found that the low and high beam switch functions were reversed with high beam indicator light
illuminated while in low beam mode. I tried it in my Triumph Tiger and the same thing happened. Both bikes positive ground.
It sure was bright! I'm back with the OEM bulb now. I have 3 phase alternator and don't ride at night.
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I also had the high beam warning lamp on in low beam mode, as well as high beam mode if I recall correctly. This is because the new LED can operate in positive or negative earth setups. So I presume it was getting some back current through the warning light, making it light up. Fix was to use an LED positive earth in the warning light.
 
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