Killing the bike that killed mine

You guys calling TROLL crack me up, putting a CB750 thread in the Commando posting section is what?-that`d be trolling ,wouldn`t it?
Matt, you were far too timid to even crack open the throttle on my triples, & as for stalling it off the line...tsk..tsk..
Oh yeah, Matt - & do remind us all what you have been owning/riding lately, say in the last decade or 3...

Matt, [& you CB 750 guys] time for a FACT check.
http://kawtriple.com/mraxl/articles/197 ... bikes2.htm
How does that CB 750 torque curve look? flat, insipid & dull...it has what you could call a 'powerbland', nowhere did it better the Commando, & finished 2nd last in the shoot out, Honda, oh dear, no wonder they started work on the CBX/6 `bout then..

Cool videos acotrel!
I have never seen a JAP in person, only pics.

There is no Sidecar racing around here. In fact, other than MX, there isn't any motorsickle racing at all.

Then theres when you draged it out to siverdale , and didnt remember the stainless steel jeep later , either . Bit damp at the time . Ni naninanina
Was instructed by your mightyness to ride it then ,
and was the series of lurches pillion on the H2 or the LC750 , ive a feeling it was red . And lurched well .

I have a problem racing against 1000cc CB750s. I get the hump when they pass me at the end of the straights, and blitz me off the start. Other than that they are OK. I noticed the CR750 in Doug's Mosport video - very quick.

Hers there RCB 1000 , first piece of trash they made that worked , but not available off the shelf , so no use there . Honda Boy brother not impressed with BolDor 900 .
Thought it exhibited typical oriental lack of directional stability . These race bikes tend to be put together fairly carefully . How Much Money have ya got . :idea:



1977 works whizz bang .



R C B Endurance Race site . Dime a dozen, gettem free with the cornflakes. 50 bucks to you .
Or was that 100.000 pounds . :? :mrgreen:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... sch&itbs=1



" The horrible primary drive with two separate chains of the CB750 had been replaced with gears, which also drove the electronic CD magneto ignition, "

Were actually the first things the japs were doing I thought to be perhaps not fawed . At the time .Certainly dont consider whales to be good marlins . :|

Matt, what about the time you were too timid to take Perry`s factory TR 750 for a strop `round Pukekohe?

LVP alledged it tried tying itself in knots at 160 at the backstraight kink , and hit 180 at the end . tecnique ( Geoff ) was to throw it into the right after the grandstand at 130 , drift down to 90 , flick left 60 right - gas - right . and over again . With these expectations ' we ' thought there was a cahance something might go amiss , particularly with the staggering 1 in Dia Tube chassis .

One can imagine Len all ' Gung ho ' Testing . There wouldve been a bit of explaining to do if Id let HIM get on it too . Cherchez la femme .

The machines were destined for Len Soutwards museum . 10 yr old tyres and the historical value were the main considerations .Besides a few meaningfull looks
from Jean .

However , if you know someone with a inteligently assembled 73 / 74 TR750 , Im open to offers . Philip Island do . . . ?

There is a TR750 in Victoria which is claimed to be ex-Barry Sheene. The fork yokes have far too much offset and it scares the owner/rider silly. What should I do - stick my old fart busy-body nose into his business, and tell him he is about to neck himself ? Some of these guys are a worry when they try to ride around bad handling shit heaps, and they have very limitted experience. I've only ever seen one really good TR750, and it is still owned by Rod Coleman in New Zealand. It has the trick frame with the lay down shock absorbers. The frame came out of Suzuki America , and I think it w as made by Harris without permission from the Japanese. Pat Hennen used to ride it.

:shock: Theres a pic ina book of Hennan on Perrys TR750 too , Air New Zealand , as per here .









The Suzuki TR750 Flexi Flier

http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgu ... sch&itbs=1

Was aware of some responceability to the old git , or history at least . A turkey had offered ten grand for the two Norvins , Id told him to hang on a while if he didnt need the money . A year later he was offered ten grand each . figured back then the TR750 was twenty grand to replace . Still good order . Pukekohe was
pretty undulateing around then in parts . The mighty 1 in dia frame tubes wouldve got all knotty and mayve scratched the paint . Seeing I view a race machine as a precision instrument , back then there I still viewed the TR750 / TR 500s as cheap & nasty Jap trash . Not the full quid . Now , had it been a M V Augusta .
:roll: :lol:

Thought it better not to risk screwing the engine too , as sat as raced last at Daytona . Wouldnt want to muck up a getting rare N.Z. Historical Machine ,

cant recall, think the Dunlops were the Hard Compound , likely the first order of avoidance . pity . best of times , worst of times .

" Next came the isle f Man T T and Suzuki put all there efforts behind Stan . . .
. . . Mondays 750 race saw a brilliant win by Peter williams on the Norton and Stan came in fourth haveing battled the flexi-Flyer "

p 52 Classic racer No 154 . :idea:

From memory, Rod Coleman was fairly well respected by Nippon Suzuki, often had quite trick factory bikes in N.Z. ['black piper' GSX 1100 production racers] & obtained a trick TR 750 for Pat Hennen to race in the Kiwi Marlboro series, [& here in `Straya, too] had some good dices with the competitive T.K.A. H2Rs, & Willings ex Agostini OW Yam.
Gary Nixon was quoted in Classic Bike, March `10, P. 47 re early F 750 racers;
"Hell, they were scary, but it was something you had to do.
You`re a racer, & the Triumphs were running 150mph when the 2-strokes were at 180mph.
Thats a big difference."

That scenario was the result of the manipulations of the " 200 of Production Based - castings " scenario . The old pull the rug out from under the feet .
TZ fours were banned , but enough mugs had bought them by then that the oriental reinterpretation of the rules and the ace crowds love of blood sports
via the promoters saw them reinstaed .

Noteably Sheene was the Rep for the Riders Committe for Track saftey improvements . Not without good reson . Half of them couldnt stay on them . :shock:

Now weve all got circuits lined with Concrete walls ( Bathurst etc ) and bloody advertiseing plastered from arsehole to breakfast on the machines .bloody mess .

Matt, if you`d shown a bit of gumption, you could `ve fettled the TR for ol` Len, got him to put some fresh rubber on it, given it a go...another missed opportunity...
Barry Sheene was instrumental in killing F 750 as an F.I.M. world championship because it was more exciting than the 500 G.P. racing when he was world champion & its major booster at that time,- `til Kenny Roberts on the Carruthers tuned factory Yams kicked his arse.

Like the one where some retard goes to smoke Ianuchis dope ?



Teammates Geoff Perry (left) and Don Emde watch as one of the Suzuki factory mechanics from Japan makes some changes. The TR750 was very fast around the banking, but was top heavy, had a lot of frame flex and there was instant concern about tire mileage as well as getting the chain to go the distance. A manual chain oiling system can be seen on the left side. The reservoir is below the seat with a line leading down by the countershaft sprocket. The system was operated by pulling a short lever mounted near the clutch lever and the riders got a pit signal every four or five laps to give it a pull. Not very high-tech, but it worked.
A sad note about Perry: He was killed the following July when a Pan Am 747 carrying him from his home in New Zealand to San Francisco for Laguna Seca crashed into the sea and everyone on board perished. He was one of four riders that participated in the 1973 Daytona 200 to die later that year, along with Jarno Saarinen, Renzo Pasolini and Cal Rayborn.


Had imbaciles advice me to race RDs too , when I had something twice as fast . likely to end under a pile of motorcycles there . T120 wouldve made sense .
Never screwed around as much as any Japper through the undulations on the highway . Put the reco'd swing arm pivot in after we left the big shit er City .
Place was full off con men & fast talkers . Nothing Changes .

Tr about as rideable as the 61 Triumph , Id imagine . Lots of dick heads killed themselves . If you watched what you were doing and didnt get excited ,
thatd only leave a bunch of turkeys on the track to contend with . And there wernt to many of them that were sensable , outside the premier classes .
hilarious raceing the Triton against the Katanas / 500 raceing & open production , in a championship series race or two . Pity the TZs copuldnt keep up .

FART icon .

You might like this, there is a glimpse of Hennen on the TR750 :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIbsSq-Xy5M

" Vincents are toffs bikes " , yea . Right . :?

Honestly, I had to look up what a "Toff" was.
but now that I know........
You can bet your arse that I would be toffing all over the friggin' place if I was riding worntorn's Vincent!

I had to look it up as well. It is a bit derogatory, but not all that bad, in fact Im still hoping to become a toff one day. It is unlikely Ill make it tho, a 57 year old carpenter/farmer has little chance of making it to Toffsville!

Looks like Im stuck being a Poser :cry:

Glen

I don't be;ieve you guys in the US know much about class distinction. A 'toff' is the same thing as a 'knob'. Like Fred Astair in Putting on the Ritz. In australia, most of us are 'rabble' or 'plebs' as they were known in Roman times. We have 'posers ' too, the usually drive porsches or ferraris, have their hair in pony tails, and wear gold chains around their necks - they are usually fakes.
I wouldn't call someone who rides a vincent 'a poser', the y usually know what is inside their motor after fixing the stripped timing gears a few times on the side of the road.

This is what a 'toff' or a'knob' is ('knob' is a reference to nobility) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFabjc6mFk4

This is one type of 'poser' :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I

This is another type of 'poser', but he might be the 'real deal' - a 'toff' ! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqy_z7nZzxA

I didn't look it (toff) up but doesn't it mean someone who is "stuck up" or thinks that they are better than everyone else? Well .....worntorn you old toffing stuck up privileged poser, I for one am jealous of your hand made custom!! What a cool bike you made, and to think i was all just so you could get some attention, amazing what lengths some people will go to impress other people. But then some folks just type on a keyboard ....LOL. I wondered what you did with all of those wood working tools in the background of your build thread photos. Cj