It's a long way to 920 type(rary)

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Hi Yves, as mentioned above, velocity figures would be great to see. This is where the FA head usually scores over others.
Hi Nigel and Jan-Egil,
I just call the flowman Werner and he says that he don't have the software (at the moment) to do velocity figures
BTW I gat my gapless rings
Tomorow I put the engine together
Keep you posted
Yves
 
The in-house Access Norton plot monger just stumbled onto Yves airflow data sheet on the previous page and couldn’t help himself, so fed the Flemish data into the Yankee translator and out came the information below. Let me know if there is an issue or if the translator screwed up again (damn machines are always making mistakes!).

The airflow reported should be sufficient to make ~ 70 crankshaft HP if compression, cam and pipe are optimized.

It's a long way to 920 type(rary)
It's a long way to 920 type(rary)
 
The translation is fine! Thank you very much...Yves is very happy and will comment soon, I am on the phone with him as I type.
 
The in-house Access Norton plot monger just stumbled onto Yves airflow data sheet on the previous page and couldn’t help himself, so fed the Flemish data into the Yankee translator and out came the information below. Let me know if there is an issue or if the translator screwed up again (damn machines are always making mistakes!).

The airflow reported should be sufficient to make ~ 70 crankshaft HP if compression, cam and pipe are optimized.

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Hi WZ 507,
What a great job you did! Thanks a lot
Yves
 
Hi there
Lot of work done to day:
Put the pistons, cylinder and cylinder head on the engine, it's take me some hours to do the job and I hope to have the engine running tomorow
Keep you posted
Yves
 
Hi there,
The day start at early morning, just a few hours of work and the engine will be on the road, the wheter is sunny,
I put the exhaust, the carbs, the K&N, the transmission cover an a lot of littel things...
At noon the bike is ready to run, I push on the start button, the engine is turning with the starter but don't want to start, I feel that the ignition was not working, and yes no spark! I use a Tri Spark, the one with the test button: no spark! I take the volt meter and check if 12 V was coming to the Tri Spark module: nothing!!
You must know that I use a straigt line from the batterie to a ignition switch on the bars, I check the switch: no 12 volts coming in.
So the problem must be between the batterie and the switch, I was to tired to work, when you are tired you can not do good work...
In fact only 3 wires are connecting to the negative pole from the batterie, one that go to the relay from the starter, the second one to the start button and the third one go to the ignition switch, via a distribution box with fuses, the problem must be there, but to have a good access I must take the carbs away, this work will be done tomorow, early morning and I hope to do a test ride if it's not raining or snowing...
Keep you posted
Yves
 
Yves, I’ll put my cards on the table... my guess is that this head work will yield 4-5bhp.

However, I guess the bigger concern is your ‘missing’ mid range torque, but this will be more impacted by the charge velocity than outright cfm flow.

Although you’ll be very keen to re test on the dyno ASAP, I would urge you to get some more miles on it first, especially with the thicker piston coating you have, after all, the excess coating needs to wear off before it’s able to work as intended.

Glen, pass the pop corn will ya ?
 
The in-house Access Norton plot monger just stumbled onto Yves airflow data sheet on the previous page and couldn’t help himself, so fed the Flemish data into the Yankee translator and out came the information below. Let me know if there is an issue or if the translator screwed up again (damn machines are always making mistakes!).

The airflow reported should be sufficient to make ~ 70 crankshaft HP if compression, cam and pipe are optimized.

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Good Morning Together
Yes indeed a very good job. Let me try an interpretation of these graphs related to the power- graphs we have on Page 10:
Graph 1: The green one is from the stock Fullauto head with 38mm intake valves.
Graph 2: The blue one is the one with intake valves of 41mm and just blended ports to the bigger valves. Otherwise the ports are standard
Graph 3: The red one is the one with the bigger intake valves and re- shaped ports.

1.) What strikes me is that graph 2 over a very wide range of valve- opening has the better flow than graph 1, and yet, the power should be down by nearly 8hp (that's 10- 12%)??? I wonder.
2.) The flow of graph one is getting better when the valve is nearly fully open (max. lift of the valve should be 0,425"?). Well, what ever the reason may be for this effect (may be the higher velocity of the incoming charge wins over the bigger intake surface?), the big valve engine won power in the upper rev.- range. According to the flow graphs it should have been just the other way round.
3.) Could is be that the dyno- man mixed up the 2 power graphs? If that's the case I tend to believe his graphs.

Conclusion:
What we are doing here is a kind of a development process. Yves, just run in the engine realy well (1000kms), and then do another test- run on the dyno. If the power graphs are still not satisfactory, we will have to look at the exhaust port as well. Remember we have a system here, consisting of intake and exhaust- valves- and- ports.
A few years back I had a discussion with Roger Titchmarsh (yes, the frame builder). He had just finished a very fast Matchless G 50- Engine for Hugh Anderson who very successfully competed in the Brittish CRMC- Championships at the time. He told me that the shape of the exhaust- port is also very important to the power of the motor.
Or also a few years back, I talked to Stuart Digby very successfull BSA Sidecar- racer. He told me that a real step forward for his Race- BSAs was the opening of the exhaust- valve and the porting.

So, the next step after all this work should be the exhast port as well. Don't under- estimate this detail.

Yves, you are only young and there is still some work to be done.

Did you test- ride your NORTON with the re- shaped ports yet?

All the best to all of you for a happy Easter.
 
Hi there,
I ritch Tipperary to day, I did a road test, what a difference with the flowing of the head, no placebo effect now, I weight 200 pounds and in first gear the front weel don't touch the road anymore, not realy a "weelie" but the front fork go full out and the steering is very light, and the bike is pushing the same way all the gears up, wonderfull feeling after all this work and time and money.
I always know that the power was there, but there was someting wrong, keeping the horses inside and thanks a lot of good advices from the forum members, the parts from Jim Schmidt, the work from Klaus Monning and the porting from Werner, I am fnally happy, I look 10 years older, but happy with the results, and you should agree with me: I deserve it no?
I know, we can find some horses more, but now I wish to ride and ride and ride and enjoy my Seeley.
Thanks again to all of you
I don't keep you posted anymore for a while
Yves
 
I am finally happy, I look 10 years older, but happy with the results, and you should agree with me: I deserve it no? I know, we can find some horses more, but now I wish to ride and ride and ride and enjoy my Seeley.
Yves

You might look 10 years older, but I'm sure you feel about 30 years younger. Thank goodness that tall Bonsai tree didn't take you out! Hope you have some spectacular weather coming up so you can luxuriate in the Seeley splendor.
 
Exciting report on successful efforts and joys to apply it. Same front floating can occur through turns which extends tire life by ~ double from L & R edges use. Can't stay on WOT long in public so wondering if ya found a sweet spot rpm/cruise with least or most pleasant vibes? Btw might consider more object entertainments for us via a G force road dyno gizmo or even smartphone app. Haven't kept up with all Yves features but sure found EGT & Head temp and oil temp rather useful/insightful. For the price ultralight aircraft kits are hard to beat but expensive digital data loggers are the cat's meow.
 
Great news Yves!

How long do we have to wait for the return to the dyno ??
Hi Nigel, it will not be in the coming days, what I wish to do now is ride and enjoy and I must stay at home some days, my wife don't enjoy it anymore! She was going to the hardware store to buy some weels to put under my suitcases, it's easy to roll out the house...
Yves
 
I must stay at home some days, my wife don't enjoy it anymore! She was going to the hardware store to buy some weels to put under my suitcases, it's easy to roll out the house...
Yves

Yeah, you gotta get the balance right Yves. Females don’t share, or even understand, our obsessive nature. I know, I live with three of them...!

Do keep us posted on your Seeley fun tho eh?
 
Hello all, despite typical Belgian weather (!), Yves and I went to a weekly gathering of vintage vehicles this morning, I guess we couldn't resist the appeal of rolling thunder (in more ways than one!). I must add that we were the only two motorcycles present, 100% Norton population amongst vintage Jags, Porsches and other beauties...

I can now reveal that Yves' incredible machine sounds like a Mosquito bomber on a low altitude straffing raid against Feldmarshall Rommel's finest panzer unit. Loud, deep, and seriously terrifying, in one word: gorgeous.

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