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Ikon Basix Review

Discussion in 'Norton Commando Motorcycles (Classic)' started by swooshdave, Aug 15, 2019.

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  1. swooshdave

    swooshdave

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    i took a ride tonight into the nearby countryside. I stopped to snap this picture only to discover I was next to some of Oregon’s finest hemp. Hops and hemp, that’s what they grow ‘round these parts

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    While I was riding I kept thinking, when are those Ikons going to get here?

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    When I got home I saw that my dreams came true!

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    Quite a lovely kit. The instructions are inside the box so don’t throw it away! I was so tired tonight I couldn’t bring myself to put them on but rest assured, they will go on soon!
     
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  2. gortnipper

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    Wow, looks great.

    And the shox are a lot cheaper than the
    7610-1653 SP9.
     
  3. ashman

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    Dave they will last a life time as they are rebuildable and the rebuild kits are cheap, my old Koni's (now Ikon) have been on my Norton for 40 years now and was only rebuilt for the first time 7 years ago now, Ikon had the rebuild kit and they still handle as good as the day I brought them all them years ago, I run Ikons on my old Thruxton and have a set for my project Manxman, they will transform your Norton.

    Ashley
     
  4. Onder

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    These are the non damper adjustable? Do you get a choice of spring weights?
     
  5. Fullauto

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    You'll like them. I've got over 50,000 miles on mine now with zero issues and, as Ashley says, they are easily rebuildable. Also, for the first time ever, I have them on the softest preload.
     
  6. baz

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    If they are the same as konis then even if they are non dial a ride they are still adjustable on the damper rod from memory?
    Hopefully someone will chime in to confirm?
     
  7. Fast Eddie

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    No, the Basix do not have adjustable damping.
     
  8. kommando

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    That was the old 76 series, you removed the spring and then pressed the damper rod down and could adjust the rebound damping by turning the damper rod, these basix are not the same. The 76 was replaced by the dial a ride 7610 series, much easier to change the rebound damping but more limited in the range and not so finely adjustable as on the 76. I have rebuilt 2 sets of 76 shocks and they are a nicer shock as they are thinner and have the better but inconvenient control of rebound damping, you have to rebuild even NOS ones due to the dissolving bump stop washer they used, the resulting gunge blocks all the oilways and locks the shock solid eventually, I use nylon washers to replace them and then no issues.
     
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  9. swooshdave

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    Yes, choice of spring rate. As I’m average (200 lbs fully geared) the dealer recommended the standard spring.

    Be careful, there are multiple dealers in the US with very similar names. I kept complaining to the guy about how crappy his website was and I was looking at his competitors. :oops:

    https://www.ikonshocksusa.com/

    Nils is super helpful. They are built to order in Australia so I ordered on the 2nd and got them yesterday.

    I should be breaking the Proddy in but I keep getting accessories for the Interstate. :)
     
  10. ludwig

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    Same spring, same weight = not softer.
    You only lowered the riding height.
    If you want softer, you need softer springs.
    ( or gain weight ..)
     
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  11. triumph2

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    I have a pair of early Koni shocks that are worn out and leaking. I was told that the rebuild kit was no longer available for the older Konis
     
  12. batrider

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    Me too. Said my model was not rebuildable. This was maybe 5 yrs ago. There looks like a place for a peg wrench but couldn't budge either one even with heat. I bought them in the '70s.
     
  13. kommando

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    If these are 76 series then you can adapt the 7610 series seals and pegged cover to fit them, as long as the shaft is ok and the rest of the internals are in working condition then it can be done.
     
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  14. swooshdave

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    Well, compared to the old Dot the new shocks look lovely. Were Dots the original shock?

    But then I ran into this.

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    Which isn’t necessarily a problem except:

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    I’m surprised by the variance in the spacers. The wall thickness (third number) is from .047-.052. And the number that’s giving the real problem is the OD, .475-.467 when the opening in the shock is .473-.475. So far I can only get one spacer in. Sure I could force them but I’m concerned it would deduce the ID to where I couldn’t get them over the mounting bolts.

    I have an email in to the dealer.
     
  15. L.A.B.

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    No, they'd have been Girlings.

    Dot were a range of aftermarket shocks.

    Dot = 'Devoid of Trouble'
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot_Cycle_and_Motor_Manufacturing_Company

    "The Dot Cycle and Motor Manufacturing Company was established by Harry Reed in Salford, Lancashire a city near Manchester, England, in 1903. By 1906 they had built their first motorcycle, using a Peugeot engine.......


    ......................Eventually, Dot found it increasingly difficult to compete with the larger motorcycle manufacturers. Further, the demise of their main engine supplier, Villiers, and the increasing number of foreign imports, spelled the end of large scale production. Burnard Wade developed and marketed motor cycle suspension units, sold spares and undertook general engineering work to keep the company viable, but always hoped to return to motorcycle manufacture. In 1978 he revealed a new design of machine for clubman use, but few were built, as the time had passed when a small factory like Dot could compete against the large Japanese mass producers."
     
  16. ashman

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    Ikon sells the kits, but then it was over 5 years ago when I rebuilt mine.
     
  17. ashman

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    My old Konis have the 4 setting adjuster up top for damper adjuster and my new 2 pairs of Ikons are the same, both sets look the same as my old konis, I deal through Ikon Australia who took over Knoi motorcycle shocks when Koni decided to stop making motorcycle shocks hence the name change to Ikon.

    Ashley
     
  18. swooshdave

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    Dealer has more bushings on the way. My confidence is not high they’ll work better.

    The actual specs are 12mm OD x 10mm ID and the stuff I have isn’t close.
     
  19. gortnipper

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    Hopefully they will measure them before they send.
     
  20. swooshdave

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    I asked them to but I think the package had already gone out.
     

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