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Hit by red light runner

Discussion in 'Norton Commando Motorcycles (Classic)' started by jamesp, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. blaisestation


    Apr 10, 2008
    the ignore button is a great thing !
  2. Time Warp

    Time Warp .......back to the 70's. VIP MEMBER

    Dec 3, 2012
    I have no need for it, he has some interesting stories and I believe there is an etiquette to be shown based on age.
    I grew up in an era when at the Sunday cinema, the curtains would open and there was the Queen on the screen to address us antipodeans and you stood up, you gave your seat up for the elderly or any woman, I still do but for the most part those days are gone.

    I care little if someone repeats the same thing or posts left field, there is a bigger picture and do not look forward to the day when I can just look at my bikes until there is no choice but to sell them.......

    Sure it is probably safer to some degree on a race track than the road even at cruising speeds but motorcycles to me have always been about adventure and what is over the horizon.
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  3. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie VIP MEMBER

    Oct 4, 2013
    It’s an over simplification to say the track is safer than the road.

    Yes, everything Al says is true, I agree with the logic. But the counter argument is that when you’re on the track, you and everyone around you is riding to their absolute limit, and one split second mistake can lead to an off, the margin for error is massively reduced, the chances of an off (ie crashes per mile) are massively increased.
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2019
  4. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie VIP MEMBER

    Oct 4, 2013
    Don’t think about hurting this guy. Just make sure the full weight of the law is brought onto him. He clearly broke the law, make sure you press charges fully.

    You’ll feel better knowing he got what he deserved, and it might even teach him a lesson and make the roads a bit safer.
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  5. Onder


    May 11, 2010
    A bit disconcerting as the piccie of the red Commando is EXACTLY my bike down to the black painted guard stays! Uncanny but reminds
    me that I must be 110 percent alert at all times whilst riding out.
    You beat the reaper on this, be thankful.
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  6. ashman


    Jul 11, 2010
    Hurting someone over a accident gets you nowhere but more troubles, let the law deal with his mistake and the insurance company deal with the claims, there is enough road rage these days.
    Its a sad thing seeing your pride and joy damaged by someone else mistake, but taking it out of his hide is not the way to go.

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  7. cjandme


    Feb 5, 2011
    Everyone here on the forum is, first and foremost, glad you're okay. I'm sure of it. As to the question of parts, they are all attainable and there are even more choices than there ever was before (a blessing for us and a testament to our Marque. And if I might, I'd like to second the advice on dealing with the Insurance company, they will probably try to lowball you, it happened to me recently. They're counting on you being in a hurry /needing to get back on The Road again and therefore ready to agree to their offer. Cj
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  8. maylar

    maylar VIP MEMBER

    May 13, 2007
    First - I'm sorry for your accident, and glad you're OK.

    My bike is insured through Condon Skelly, they do classic vehicles, for an agreed value of $15000 US. I supplied photos of the bike and copies of eBay listings for similar condition machines when I signed up with them and they had no problems with the value.

    I had a low speed crash a few years ago and the insurance company sent an adjuster to look at it. He took my word for the cost of parts replacement and even gave me $75 per hr for labor, again on my estimate. They paid promptly. So, not all insurance companies suck.

    Good luck putting yours back together.
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  9. jamesp


    Aug 17, 2011
    Thanks for the advice. I had recent experience with insurance companies on another loss, so I am getting ready. I would appreciate any solid evidence of value like sold examples to show them what they are worth.
  10. jamesp


    Aug 17, 2011
    Where does Andover get their parts? They seem to have everything except fuel tank and mufflers.
  11. lazyeye6

    lazyeye6 VIP MEMBER

    Feb 28, 2014
    A/N own most original factory drawings. They contract with many manufacturers
    to produce their parts based upon the drawings and specifications. They do sell
    mufflers and fuel tanks but seem to be out of stock for those items right now.
    There are numerous discussion on this forum about fuel tanks ranging from
    many unacceptable examples sold on eBay from India, to apparently very good
    quality ones from Emgo. Pea Shooter mufflers are a high turnover item and can
    be purchased from a whole host of vendors and made by a number of different
    manufacturers in the USA and GB. They range from ones with full baffling inside, to straight passthrough, with attendant noise/volume ranges.
  12. N0rt0nelectr@

    N0rt0nelectr@ VIP MEMBER

    Sep 15, 2014
    First thing is that you are OK.
    I too was hit by a stop sign runner and my previously untouched 74 850 was totaled. That was 25 years ago, I bought the bike back and found a frame and rebuilt it. When I met with the adjuster I took as many ads for Norton's that I could find to justify my claim. In Arizona there isn't a mandatory helmet law but if you are in an accident you are held partially responsible for your injuries, I had a heavy jacket and my helmet on. Got $175,000 plus the settlement on the bike. My leg was broken in 4 places and off work for 8 weeks!
    I have a low mileage 74 Mk2A that I need to sell if you can't fix yours.
    John in Texas
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  13. swooshdave


    Apr 15, 2009
    Glad you are ok. Someone already said, don't cash the check until you are satisfied with the amount. Who the other insurance company is can be important. Someone rear ended my Norton and USAA was very accommodating. I got an estimate from a shop and the adjuster actually bumped the estimate up. In your case I suspect they will total it, or try to. The most expensive and most difficult to replace is the engine and transmission. Everything else is relatively reasonable, even the frame.
  14. Atlas Commando

    Atlas Commando VIP MEMBER

    Feb 27, 2018
    Glad you are okay, but be sure you really are. A neck or spine problem might not surface for several days, wouldn't hurt to get checked out by a physician. You might have a pain and suffering adder to your settlement, and don't forget loss of use of the vehicle and compensation for your lost time and inconvenience. I hope you get a fair payout and your bike back.
  15. CanukNortonNut


    Aug 8, 2005
    Glad you are OK.
  16. jamesp


    Aug 17, 2011
    Wow, sounds like big settlement, but I can imagine you went through a lot of pain and misery that you didn't really want. Things like that cannot really be justified through reasoning, IMHO. I was very lucky. Thanks for your reply. What part of Texas? I am originally from Dallas.
  17. o0norton0o

    o0norton0o VIP MEMBER

    Apr 27, 2015
    Glad your OK.

    WTBS, a well sorted out commando is $10,000. minimum.

    As far as riding danger on track vs road, no doubt the road is more dangerous, unless racers are texting now during their race...:eek:
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  18. jamesp


    Aug 17, 2011
    Thank you. I only seem to be bruised thanks to my heavy leather jacket and good helmet, but am thinking about a check up.
  19. Atlas Commando

    Atlas Commando VIP MEMBER

    Feb 27, 2018
    Which reminds me, they need to replace your helmet since it took a shot, and I would get a good look at your jacket and other clothes for damage.
  20. baz

    baz VIP MEMBER

    May 26, 2010
    I'm glad you are ok mate
    Don't worry about hurting this bloke it won't get you anywhere,
    Just get your bike sorted to the best of your ability and get back on the road

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