Like you said Seattle, only a few aftermarket riser options available to buy you an inch or two. It's like how do you want to be on the bike and how do you ride. Younger days, I was humping the tank like it was the old lady. Further on it's whatever makes you comfortable. Could always add a riser for an inch or two to whatever bar you choose. The limper the dick, the higher the bar. Been down that road.