First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando

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Well last fall someone answered a "I buy old bikes" add of mine on CL.
He has a Norton Commando and Guzzi. I was told I had to take both, but the price was right.
Guzzi was a basket case that had rusted to junk.

This was the Commando.
First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando

First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando


Engine turned, had all of the parts and a clear title.

I come from the SOHC CB750 world, so this was a very different project. Not so much in that the bikes are different, but that the mindset of working on a British anything is different. There is the right way, the wrong way, and the British way. Lucky I have owned a few Jaguars and MGs.

Was under no delusions that the bike just needed a carb clean and tires to run. Was surprised that the parts were cheaper, and easier to find then I expected.
Would also like to thank the members of the community because they are a great source of information and help.

Sure that I am forgetting some things...
-New Amal Premier 32mm carbs
-Dave Tyler Head Steady
-Upgraded adjustable Isolastics
-New swingarm mount
-Cleaned out trans
-New Girling style shocks
-New rear brake shoes
-New harness
-New battery
-Tri-Spark ignition and coils (GREAT ITEM)
-All new cables
-Avon tires
-Fork seals and bushings
-SS caliper pistons
-New Fergo pads
-New Barrnet Clutch
-Clutch rod O-Ring mod
-New sprocket and chain
-New petcocks
-Braided fuel line
-Reed valve check valve
-Adjusted valves
-New exhaust rubbers
-New rubber pegs
-New windscreen

Polished some of the covers up. Not going for a show bike. Goal was just to have a good running original bike.
PO owned it for a LONG time and put MANY miles on it. He added the Dunstal parts over the years.
Going to drop him a line and let him see how the bike turned out.

Last inspection sticker was 1984! That was before I was BORN!....lol
First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando


While I knew that the bike would need some work, I did not think it would need to get to this point!
First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando


BUT it seems like these bikes are meant to come apart for major services, so it really was a mental thing that it LOOKED like a big deal.

Bought some fancy wheels, because I LOVE mag wheels.
First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando


And big brakes.
First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando


More on those parts latter....

The other day I blessed the project as "Done", I say that.....but it is an old bike, they are never actually done.
Didn't mount the new wheels yet because I need to figure out the spacers. Figured I would ride it on the stock wheels for now and not miss out on the summer.
Also the big brake has a poorly made caliper bracket that does not space the caliper correctly. That will also be addressed at some point over the summer.

Speedo doesn't work despite new cable, have not looked into it.
Tach only reads 4500-5000RPM, again have not investigated.

Really need to sit down and read about setting up the Isolastics as I think mine are not adjusted right.

Took the bike out over the weekend for about an hour.
Nothing leaked out, fell off, stopped working or went wrong. To some that is a low bar for success, but im still thrilled.
Bike will now be pressed into semi daily use.

First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando

First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando

First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando

First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando


Next on the list is to wrap up my Seeley CB750 Honda and then on to either my featherbed or 750 Commando (going to flip a coin)
 
Nice one Jaguar!

Great, sympathetic, re-commissioning job.

You have WAY more self discipline than me, I ALWAYS get carried away and do way more than initially planned!
 
speirmoor said:
Nice job,looks great!

Thanks!

Fast Eddie said:
Nice one Jaguar!

Great, sympathetic, re-commissioning job.

You have WAY more self discipline than me, I ALWAYS get carried away and do way more than initially planned!

Normally I do too. Issue is I never seem to get those projects finished!
 
Good for you, another one back where it belongs.
There are now at least 3 of us on this forum with Campbray alloy wheels, mine are same colour as yours but my rear wheel is disc type as it's on a mk 3.
Enjoy your bike.
sam
 
jaguar said:
Issue is I never seem to get those projects finished!

Very nice, and it's good to see you riding it. I'm not much for museum pieces, unless one-off, racing heritage, or the like. You do know they're never completely done, don't you? Mine now has good compression, no leaky exhaust ports, no oil leaks (really!), so, what to do? I know; throw it against the wall!

First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando


It's almost as if my id wasn't satisfied with just riding it.

We'll be looking forward to pictures of the tweeks you apply in the months ahead.

Nathan
 
Generally I fear taking a bike apart, that is normally a death sentence.
The Norton was different, it just kinda happened!

I do want to get the wheels swapped. A-I love the look, and B-the stock wheels are in poor shape.
Think that the plan is to run the 14in rotor, or maybe just use the AP caliper on the stock rotor. Either way the brakes are not up to modern roads in my opinion.
Other then that I cant think of much I want to change or do with the bike.

Probably will start in on the 750 Commando that I have in the back of the shop. I have this "beach cruiser" custom in my head. Nothing crazy, just a nice simple scrambler. Will try not to snowball things on that and actually get it done.

Ten plus years ago I bought this.
First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando


It needed the basics and would have been a nice usable ride.
BUT what did I do? I took it apart to "build" a café racer.....

Moved three time and it spent most of the time looking like this.
First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando


About a year ago I was frustrated that it never really looked like a motorcycle, so I tossed a motor in it.
First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando


Have not touched it in years.....

At least with my Seeley I just started with a pile of junk.
First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando


It is starting to look like an actual motorcycle.....
First Ride In MANY Years For An 850 Commando
 
Doing well.

Either way the brakes are not up to modern roads in my opinion.

On the brakes front the changes you have made will help but you are being held back by the too large piston in the master cylinder, you can get this sleeved or use one of the kits and do it yourself. This will change the leverage you get from your hand and increase the force applied to the caliper. You will also need to change the brakeline rubber pipe as too much effort will go into it ballooning out and losing you leverage, so go stainless outer PTFE inner on the brakeline.

The reason for the too large piston is they did not want new owners grabbing handfuls of brake like it was a drum brake and locking up the front wheel , later on it was realised the smaller piston increased feel as well as reducing effort so it was unfounded concern but by then Norton were gone.
 
That red Honda didn't look any worse than your Commando "before".

What stalled it out?
 
grandpaul said:
That red Honda didn't look any worse than your Commando "before".

What stalled it out?

Just me.
Bike was probably in better shape to start with then my 850 Commando.
I was just stupid and took every nut and bolt off it for no good reason.
Then coated everything.
Now it is at this odd stage where I want everything to be perfect and cant seem to do that, so I don't do anything.
 
jaguar said:
I do want to get the wheels swapped. A-I love the look, and B-the stock wheels are in poor shape.
Think that the plan is to run the 14in rotor, or maybe just use the AP caliper on the stock rotor. Either way the brakes are not up to modern roads in my opinion.
Other then that I cant think of much I want to change or do with the bike.

Just wait... I am sure you will think of plenty of things to do!

For the brakes, there are a number of options out there. But, you should do the MC at a minimum.

http://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/master-c ... s_2527.htm

In fact, get the best rear brake pads too - http://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/rgm-rear ... d_2471.htm

Or, the next step

http://www.tritonmotorcycleparts.com/29 ... tid=146825

Or another

http://coloradonortonworks.com/part-categories/brakes/

Have fun! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 
very nice looking bike its just like ones we used to caff race back in the day exellent
 
Nice work getting an old Commando back into service. Not to pick nits, but I think you have tbe front fender mounted backwards.
 
Danno said:
Nice work getting an old Commando back into service. Not to pick nits, but I think you have tbe front fender mounted backwards.

That might be.
How do you tell?
I had to remove the one "support" on the rear to clear the larger rotor caliper mount I used before.
 
swooshdave said:
Before I would ride that much more I'd put fresh tires on it.

What Guzzi was it?

Some of the pictures had the 30 year old tires on the bike....
I couldn't not ride it.....

Last pictures have the new Avon tires on it.
 
L.A.B. said:
Danno said:
Not to pick nits, but I think you have the front fender mounted backwards.

I don't think it's backwards, only that the rear stay has been removed because it won't clear the oversized brake (without modification).

pictures-your-norton-commandos-t6210-390.html#p175640

OK, see what you mean. I've GOT to start wearing my specs. :shock: I think I used a chromed Triumph stay which has a dogleg.

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