Fast or Slow

This thread now shows how much most have their thinking heads in the mud while wiggling rump ends up in the air spouting smelly farts of how wise they are by being aware and careful for conditions while on a motorcycle. LOL till Crying out Loud. Like saying its safe to go out in yard as "most" the land mines, torpedoes and snare traps have been cleared. I can't forget the dead friends I knew and strangers I read about killed no fault of their own but out enjoying their sane safe cycle ride. My cycling no matter my rates is always with a sense of impending death, which is part to freedom sense I am addicted too, like most of you in denial. Fact of the matter is I almost never ever get close calls when riding rather aggressively to point of standing out and even scaring those around me, yet get routine close calls the more I just blend in the flow. Till I moved to Ozarks I was a BIG City critter on dragster lane spltting and passing lines of cars/trucks/busses in glee, mostly too fast for any to move in the way in time, even if they wanted too, unless on purpose or by accident ahead of time. Just consider the paid dispathcers on two wheels we hardly ever hear about getting hurt no fault of their own. Another thing that flys in the muddy thinking heads is if one routinely presses their selves into handling, braking, traction upsets, it builds survival reflexes that act faster from brain stem down than a slow thinking brain can. Think learning to play music.

I crash way more when going safe and sane straight and upright with best traction and handling reserves as possible. Last two take downs were d/t not going fast enough to be past danger before contact or too slow to go over or through the hazard. Last almost instant death event on Trixie was because I was not following a group of touring Harleys fast and close enough to really be associated with their pack so they went around a blind and a PU slowly pulled out thinking all clear with me coming around the bend so I passed its tail gate at 60 mph by less than an arm reach and the road ditch by two feet. This was on inside of fairly sharp sweeper so if trail braked would of risked slipping out into on coming lane or going under the PU tires.

Fate IS The Hunter -period end of story throw in the ole towel and go home to heaven or hell. Face up to it or not - but can't fool me about morocycler's sanity. I have left some big animals looking like this and just as easy could of been and may yet be me. I know my favorite hobby is really a blood sport and shudder for those that are missing out on my level of just slow easy going sight seeing thrills. Late club president Lee or Less, is still a multiple daily flash back, but less than on my buddy Joe with a '71 tri-linked Cdo in NYC that lost his only son who was on a cycle rally ride couple weeks ago... Joe tells me how much he'd press his cycles to escape worldly worries, so guess how he might take out his ongoing pains for me to worry about...

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I've not had my JPN above 60 MPH just yet due mainly to the irratic bouncy bouncy speedo, just replaced the cable with a new Venhill one and it appears to have cured the fault so we'll see how we go next time I'm out!

Mac.

Gee thanks Steve for the 18 pages of brain-sharpening images re-affirming that American culture is over the top. Now I can drive even slower, having them images to swirl thru head thingy. Brain cooked. :|

Lead, follow, or get outta the way..




Rob Ford for Prime Minister, lol.

at 56 I'm still breaking the limit, though in heavy traffic, I just roll along with everyone else.
Last summer, I got busted for 72 in a 55.... the fine was over $150

around here, most cops give you up to 10mph over, on the open road, before you're spending a lot of money. if you're 20mph over, you go to jail and they can impound your bike. they've taken most of the fun out of it!

And it's all about money and nothing at all about safety.

Yet we allow these silly-ass open road speed limit laws/fines to happen; I guess we deserve what we get.

My neighbour just drove her car only 10 km. over the limit in a 40 zone to get 2 pts.off licence then a thousand for ins. renewal. I said does that justify the cost to renew ? Have to ,answer. Went to my Ins. agent to renew and a woman was on phone to him paying 750 a month because of speeding and I said per year ,he said per month because she must drive to work and we both rolled eyes , :roll: Slow.

I find I can see things more clearly if I stay above the speed of Light . :mrgreen:

Above 299,792,458 mps.? :shock: That's fast.

" I've not had my JPN above 60 MPH just yet due mainly to the irratic bouncy bouncy speedo, just replaced the cable with a new Venhill one and it appears to have cured the fault so we'll see how we go next time I'm out! "

Youll have to Shift UP ; its got FOUR Gears . :twisted:

lawman said:

I enjoy taking my time while riding.

Do you prefer to ride fast or slow?

Frank

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I have a modern litre sports tourer for fast. When I ride the Commando/s I smell the roses. Riding 10/10ths is for the track.

Mark

Matt Spencer said:

" I've not had my JPN above 60 MPH just yet due mainly to the irratic bouncy bouncy speedo, just replaced the cable with a new Venhill one and it appears to have cured the fault so we'll see how we go next time I'm out! "

Youll have to Shift UP ; its got FOUR Gears . :twisted:

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Standard Brit biker response to 'do you know how fast you were going, sonny?' is to wag a finger repeatedly 20 degrees either side of vertical, to mimic Smiths speedo action :wink:

Willy Mac lives in the country with some of the best and quietest roads in the UK, although my last speeding ticket was picked up on the A75 near Dumfries, and 'bears' testament to the fact that they're not devoid of coppers!

Last time I got pulled on the Ducati I spotted them in time and got the speed to within 10mph of the limit before they got the radar on me - they were pretty cool about it - 'obviously wide awake' etc., and sent me off with a smile and 'we heard you coming F***ing miles away!'

Bless

Fast or steady? 16 years ago on the IOM i met a guy Duncan, he was a real steady rider.I on the other hand was a chancer, 140 plus on a zzr1100 was my normal daily speed,passing Duncan on the TT course at a fair old speed,he would shake his head ,and in the boozer at night ...have a go at me for my balls out riding style.
I would smile at his remarks and make fun , i never considered 140 fast on the mountain ..modern riders Guy Martin do 200!
After returning back home, a few weeks passed and i got a call...Duncan had been killed! on his bike...he was filtering through heavy traffic and a car turned right on him. he hit the car [T Boned] at 20-25mph and died instant! the impact had shocked his heart..he was a big guy approx 26 stone..i guess this did'nt help.

The following Manx i met up with Duncans widow...she asked me to take her around the TT course on my ZZR ....i was a bit taken back, i asked how fast? remembering her late husbands steady speed...she replied "as fast as you can!" My mate Garry who was a close friend of Duncan was concerned for "our safe return".
I set off steady, a few mile on the road she prodded me to speed up...so it was 140's and hard banking, i blasted round the track..leaning harder than normal to "impress her".
Back to the cregg where Gary was waiting with baited breath!
She got off the back ,totaly excited!!! and could'nt keep still..she was totaly thrilled! well she had not been over 50-60 in her life. imagin 150mph wind in her face?
Strange ,,in the Quids Inn that night the talk had totaly changed from last time...Duncans widow still excited talked about the thrill of speed !

As hobit states , fate ...it's luck ..i have had one bad crash [fractured spine] but still here to talk about it.

I personaly wound'nt be interested in bikes if they where slow...imagin the Big Dipper at Blackpool with a 20 mph top speed. or any fun ride..speed sells the tickets.

I can see the sales of motorcyles fall if the govenment impossed a 70 governer....and after all thats the limit here in the UK.

mike996 said:

And it's all about money and nothing at all about safety.

Yet we allow these silly-ass open road speed limit laws/fines to happen; I guess we deserve what we get.

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Amen

For me it is as petev says

It is really about the sensation. 80 is common, 90 is often, 100 is sometime.

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and rarely even 110!

I like to push myself and my bike towards their (limited) design parameters. It's all about testing yourself and the feeling of being alive......sounds corny but that means a small adrenaline release. I pick my roads very carefully, and when amongst traffic always ride with a lot of caution. There are lots of beautiful quiet roads, mainly "b" class, in North Yorkshire where you are fairly safe as long as you don't exceed your own skill level as the roads are nearly devoid of traffic. It's pure pleasure for me.

I don't have any modern bikes now. I have the Norton, a T160 and a 70's Moto Guzzi. As has been said, getting past 80+ mph and you feel like it is fast 8) 8) . Because I am unlikely to remain above 80 mph for any length of time, this also protects my license to some degree.

So to answer the original poster, on the faster side for me.

lawman said:

I enjoy taking my time while riding.

Do you prefer to ride fast or slow?

Frank

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A corner is a terrible thing to waste.

Towner said:

In Germany we have to consider the high traffic density. I had often experienced situations where I was lucky but knew that I was too fast. And that wasn't too fast in the
corners. Meanwhile some regions are forbidden for motorcycles at the weekend. You can better ride on race track if you want to go fast. That is much safer.

Edit: What I simply want to say is, that you probably can't compare the riding conditions in our country with most areas of the US. But I have to admit, that I have never been to the USA.

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I rode through Germany this summer. From Aachen down to East Austria and then through southern Germany to Freiburg and onto France. I found plenty of roads with little or no traffic. I usually go the scenic routes avoiding the main drag.

I go the scenic to aviod the tolls.

Al-otment said:

Towner said:

In Germany we have to consider the high traffic density. I had often experienced situations where I was lucky but knew that I was too fast. And that wasn't too fast in the
corners. Meanwhile some regions are forbidden for motorcycles at the weekend. You can better ride on race track if you want to go fast. That is much safer.

Edit: What I simply want to say is, that you probably can't compare the riding conditions in our country with most areas of the US. But I have to admit, that I have never been to the USA.

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I rode through Germany this summer. From Aachen down to East Austria and then through southern Germany to Freiburg and onto France. I found plenty of roads with little or no traffic. I usually go the scenic routes avoiding the main drag.

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Al-otment said:

Towner said:

In Germany we have to consider the high traffic density. I had often experienced situations where I was lucky but knew that I was too fast. And that wasn't too fast in the
corners. Meanwhile some regions are forbidden for motorcycles at the weekend. You can better ride on race track if you want to go fast. That is much safer.

Edit: What I simply want to say is, that you probably can't compare the riding conditions in our country with most areas of the US. But I have to admit, that I have never been to the USA.

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I rode through Germany this summer. From Aachen down to East Austria and then through southern Germany to Freiburg and onto France. I found plenty of roads with little or no traffic. I usually go the scenic routes avoiding the main drag.

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Hi, it is amazing how many of you guys have been to Germany. I guess I have to visit USA one day as well.

Yes, in the south you can find more roads with little traffic. But most areas in Germany are densely populated.
In my area I know some roads with little traffic in the evening or at weekend. But you have no wide choise. If you live in areas with much traffic, you have to adapt yourself. It is no fun to ride during rush hour. 20 years ago, it was much easier to ride fast.
I still like to ride fast sometimes no doubt about it, but I became much more carefully.

Fantastic road, where is it ?